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Attitudes Towards Resigning

Submitted by artfizz on Fri, 12/26/2008 at 12:19pm.

Based on an analysis of the comments posted in the forums whenever the topic of RESIGNING is raised, here are ALL of the main reasons players give for either RESIGNing or, alternatively, CONTINUING TO PLAY until either checkmate, stalemate or a draw has been achieved.

why RESIGN?

why CONTINUE PLAYING?

because it is disrespectful to your opponent to prolong a game

because it is disrespectful to your opponent not to complete the game

nothing of importance to be learned(just how to do endings)

something of importance to be learned (how to do endings)

the essence of chess is to learn from your mistakes

the essence of chess is to maximise your points

no honour in relying in opponent’s blunder for a stalemate

great satisfaction in a stalemate as a result of opponent’s blunder

the guidance says you should do it

the rules don’t say you have to

top players usually do it

top players don’t always do it

we are like top players

we are not like top players

accept the inevitable

never give up; never say die; “I’m not a quitter”

a waste of time

not a waste of time

In tournaments, I have aresponsibility not to prolong the tournament for everyone

In tournaments, I have a right to play as long as I want

outcome can be clearly seen and understood

outcome can not be clearly seen and understood

outcome is almost 100% certain

outcome is not 100% certain

My opponent has demonstrated that he probably has the ability to achieve checkmate

My opponent has not proved that he has the ability to achieve checkmate

I don’t want to be childish

I want to be childish (‘punish’/annoy my opponent)

it’s the right thing to do

it’s the right thing to do

» posted in For Beginners
 

Comments:

by The_Hess - 12 months ago
Manchester United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 462

Bump

by Eric_T - 18 months ago
El Paso, Texas United States
Member Since: Jun 2010
Member Points: 64

I used to resign when I felt I had no chance at winning, but lately I've realized I'm stronger at the endgame than most other players at my rating level.  So now I play on.  I have saved a couple of games where my opponent made a mistake which allowed me to win.  But when it gets to where I am down to K vs KR, or K vs KQ, I will play until checkmate, but I won't run all over the board to prolong it needlessly.  I want to make sure my opponent knows how to play that ending before I give up.

by Okolo - 21 months ago
Kingston Jamaica
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 130

I think this pretty much sums it up.

1. . . You CANNOT make your opponent resign.  Get over it.

2. . . You can resign whenever you feel like it.

Can we play some Chess now?

by xYrWorstFearx - 3 years ago
charlotte United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 3

  When you have looked at GM's chess games, you happen to notice one THING.

When GMs have a lost position, GMs simply resign.  No excuses, no talk "  I am not a quitter", neither "I will learn something from that defeat"  if I stay in the game.

Well, so why should we play on?  So you could get some sick pleasure from seeing people go until the inevitable END?  And in the end you could look back and say " WOW I am good!!" to make you feel superior to the person who have lost the game?  I say F**K IT ".  I am a quitter and proud that I did not give you pleasure to get off the game!!  It is just a game, dude.  Get a life. 

So please resign as soon as possible and dont care what your opponent will think about you resigning that game.  It is just a game!!

by H2oh - 3 years ago
United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 48

If you sign up for say a move in 3 days then you take your chance with the persons personality what they will do being material down.  People are different and dont always follow what we think is right thing to do. When to resign is a persons opinion and that plays into the players character. The games here should be for study and so to be a piece down should be the goal not to get in that position in the first place, or you are wasting your study time trying to win a lost position.

by Chris_the_Great - 3 years ago
Geelong Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 50

As a member who once said that surrender is not an option, I didn't enjoy my first resignation at all. And although I still believe in fighting until the end, there comes a point in some games when defeat is the inevitable conclusion.

If your opponent has played a brilliant move that has earned him victory, then don't spoil his win, accept a checkmate as a lesson.

However, if it's been a slow fight of attrition with no clear leader, then save time and wave the white flag.

by paul211 - 3 years ago
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 3141

To each is own, I personally appreciate giving a ckeckmate in say 6 or 8 to moves, even though I cannot see it but anticipate a quick ending.

After all chess is all about one thing, wining the game.

And if and when I can do this, it gives me the satisfaction of accomplissment.

It is for me in life to achieve a goal.

by isabella2296 - 3 years ago
United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 5

I don't think you should resign, even if it looks like you lost, because it's good to fight until the bitter end, isn't it?

by Don3 - 3 years ago
Rourkela India
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 242

This is one of the rarest and best articles I have ever read.

by artfizz - 3 years ago
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8363

buttonc wrote: It's a pity that this post is likely to be lost in the oblivion of forum history. It is useful enough to be developed and preserved and one of the read articles.

Actually, this IS an article. I copied it out of the forums specifically in order to make it more accessible. However, although ARTICLES are indexed individually (in the way that it would be fantastic if FORUM POSTS were), the site search facilities are neither very powerful - nor are they unified. e.g. use FORUMS -> Search to search forums, but READ -> Articles -> Search to search for articles. Furthermore, the material that members write is scattered all around the chess.com website (in the general forum area, group forums, articles. blogs, Team/Vote Match discussions, Notes, etc. etc.). Fortunately, Google site search provides a single mechanism for searching all of the publically visible part of chess.com.

by buttonc - 3 years ago
Stoke-on-Trent Wales
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 97

It's a pity that this post is likely to be lost in the oblivion of forum history. It is useful enough to be developed and preserved and one of the read articles.

by buttonc - 3 years ago
Stoke-on-Trent Wales
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 97

Another:

Being checkmated is a more degrading defeat that that through resignation.  It implies that you do not have foresight.

I'm not sure what the counter to this would be.

by artfizz - 3 years ago
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8363

kco wrote: artfizz good post, just is who is the guidance ? in " the guidance says you should do it "

"It is generally considered proper chess etiquette to resign clearly lost positions. The proper time to resign should vary with one’s chess ability. Most beginners should probably play on until they are checkmated. But more advanced players should resign clearly lost positions when they are certain that if they were on the other side of the position, they could beat even a master."

(link for the above is: http://www.ksca.us/FAQ/Quick_Guide.pdf")  referenced in http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/those-who-refuse-to-resign-when-they-are-completely-lost?page=5

by Afonso_63 - 3 years ago
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 72
I believe that everything above the valley sensitivity of each to believe in your game is good or bad he has to tie their honor depends on how it is achieved
by MainStreet - 3 years ago
Philippines
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3767

Different strokes for different people.

by kco - 3 years ago
Perth Australia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 23225

artfizz good post, just is who is the guidance ? in " the guidance says you should do it "

by HappyHung - 3 years ago
Bronx United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 24

I think that this is a good list. Another I would add is that it lets the opponent know their superiority and the loser's inferiority.

by buttonc - 3 years ago
Stoke-on-Trent Wales
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 97

You could add:

I get (don't get) bored.

by skewer2000 - 3 years ago
Leesburg United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 1164

nice comparison and contrast.

The bottomline is, some players are just not good sports.  Especially when they're facing rude players themselves.

 

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