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Russians versus Fischer:Part X

Submitted by chessbibliophile on Tue, 10/27/2009 at 2:12am.

Russians versus Fischer

by Dmitri Plisetsky and Sergey Voronkov

Hardcover, 462 pages

Everyman Chess.2005

http://www.everymanchess.com/

  

    

 

http://www.chess.com/article/view/russians-versus-fischer

 

Fischer always held the centre stage in a tournament. He was never a spectator. So why did he visit the Fried Chicken Tournament on the last day at San Antonio in 1972? Was it to see Karpov?

For the Russians the young player was the hope for the future. He had shared the first prize with Leonid Stein in the Moscow 1971 Tournament, ahead of world champions, Spassky, Petrosian, Smyslov and Tal. He had followed it up in Hastings 1971-1972, sharing the first prize with Korchnoi. At San Antonio again he shared the first prize with Petrosian and Portisch ahead of Larsen and Keres. So it was a potential rival that Bobby watched on that day. A year later Karpov went on to win the Leningrad Interzonal, sharing the first prize with Korchnoi. He clinched this performance with victories over Polugaevsky and Spassky in Candidates' Matches.

 

Kasparov:"What put Fischer on the alert was the Karpov-Spassky match.

Karpov beat Spassky very convincingly, after losing game one, and in good style. In the next ten games he crushed Spassky 4-0, and Spassky played better than Reykjavik, no blunders, no nervous reactions.Spassky fought hard, still he lost 4-0 in ten games. And the quality of this match was phenomenal. So far Bobby was dominant by beating players of older generation. Now he had to deal with a player he never met before, who didn’t make the same mistakes that other players did.Karpov’s playing style was very different.He was more steady and also more stubborn. Fischer always had extra time on his clock playing Petrosian, Spassky and it added confidence for him.But Karpov played very quickly,probably quicker than Fischer.Bobby didn’t like what he saw on analyzing Karpov’s games.The way Karpov played, the pace of his play, the opening preparation and the defence skills.Karpov was very stubborn in defending bad positions.So the resistance Fischer was going to face in the match with Karpov was unheard by his standards.

In the coming match the pressure was going to be on Fischer. All the different elements, both chess and political,were going to be a burden on his shoulders. In Reykjavik he had unleashed a psychological war on Spassky and Boris had  crumbled. But Karpov was as solid as ice.Bobby’s mind games wouldn’t have worked with him.That’s why Fischer was so aggressive in pushing the unlimited match, ten wins, because he knew, it would be his best chance.

In the Korchnoi Match

 

it was 3-0 after game 17 in Karpov’s favour, then he had got tired, and the match was decided only after the score became 3-2.Fischer insisted on a very long match, because he knew his only real advantage over Karpov was his frail constitution.He hoped Karpov would be losing energy and be worn down in the end.

I still think Fischer would have shown us magnificent chess if the match had taken place.This would have been phenomenal clash, with two giants colliding at the height of their powers."

How right was Kasparov about that Spassky match!Boris had recovered from the Reykjavik defeat.He had gone on to win the 43rd USSR Championship and  beaten Robert Byrne in the Candidates' Match in style.He had felt confident after beating Karpov in the first game of their match.Then he foundered, being outplayed in game after game. In a way this match was unsatisfactory because Boris was just not allowed to display his  unique understanding of the middle game for which he was rightly famed.Soon after Karpov was crowned world champion,they met again in the Leningrad-Russian Federation Match.This time Karpov did allow Spassky to show his great skills and still beat him with a majestic performance.

 

 

A great game reminiscent of Capablanca, the idol of both Fischer and Karpov.

Now about Fischer's conditions for the 1975 match:It was FIDE that took the decision to abandon the old format of 24 games in 1971. It adopted a resolution that the 1975 match would be for unlimited games, 6 wins, draws not counting. Essentially, it was Fischer’s idea promoted by the USCF.Now when the same Fischer saw that he would be up against Karpov, a young and dangerous rival with no chinks in his armour, he demanded a change in the format to 10 wins, draws not counting. He also insisted on the clause of the champion retaining the title in the event of a 9:9 tie. In other words the challenger had to score 10:8 points to win the match. The  2-point handicap was to protect the world champion( read Fischer) against any reverse in the match.Throughout history world champions  have sought to impose conditions favorable to theselves in a match for the title.That speaks more for their insecurity than anything else. Fischer was no exception. But it put the USCF on the horns of a dilemma. How was it going to persuade FIDE, to change the same rules it had got passed at the instance of Fischer? Ed Edmondson, the Executive Director, USCF had selflessly worked both for Bobby and the cause of American chess. In a letter published in Chess Life and Review, he made a moving plea to Bobby's sportsmanship and appealed to him not to insist on the 9:9 clause.

He reminded Bobby that all along he had  himself fought for equal opportunity for both the players and  now he should not forego his principles just because he was wearing the crown.

There was no doubt about the sincerity of the man.This book, Russians versus Fischer is a testimony to Edmondson's tireless battles on Bobby's behalf till the end. As for the American chess community,it was divided. Players like Robert Byrne, Larry Evans and Andy Soltis cautioned that endorsing Bobby's demands  would only harm him in the end and also hurt the wider interests of the chess world.

Robert Byrne who had known Bobby from his boyhood days,

 

wrote an article, Bobby Fischer's fear of losing in New York Times. He argued that Bobby was afraid of losing to Karpov, and it was this irrational fear that was the cause of his unwillingness to play a match against Karpov in conditions that Byrne considered fair.A regular war of words  among readers ensued on the pages of Chess Life and Review. It was all in vain.There was no way of persuading Bobby to play any chess, let alone the world championship match. His descent into the abyss of unreality had begun.

 

To be continued

 

Notes:

 

1)Kasparov has spoken and written  extensively on  Fischer and Karpov.Part IV and V of My Great Predecessors are dedicated to them. The quote here is only a summary of his thoughts. A better way of understanding his argument is to read his interviews on those books.Here are the links:

 

http://www/chesscafe.com/text/gkint2004.pdf

 

http://www/chesscafe.com/text/skittles274.pdf 

 

2)According to Kasparov, Fischer came to the conclusion that Karpov would be his challenger immediately after the Spassky match, although the Candidates' Final with Korchnoi was still pending.

 

3)Robert Byrne was a well-wisher of Bobby and one of the sanest voices in American chess. He was keen that Bobby should overcome his subconscious fears and beat Karpov. His loss to his younger rival in the US championship 1963-1964 is  one of the greatest games ever played. It is included in  Fischer's  book, My 60 Memorable Games.

 

4)The best source for the debate on the aborted  Match is the Chess Life and Review  DVD Collection:The Bobby Fischer Era (1956-1969 and 1969-1975).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Comments:

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear friend,

Fischer was wary of the new opponent. Do check Karpov's games in this series. Also, follow the links to this article and read Kasparov's chesscafe interviews.It is better to see all the articles so that you have a complete perspective.Here are are further links:

http://www.chess.com/article/view/russians-versus-fischerpart-xi

http://www.chess.com/article/view/russians-versus-fischerpart-xii

by Ricky_James_Fischer - 2 years ago
Beijing China
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 142

was Fischer scared of karpov?

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear friend,

I am glad you liked it.Part XI is already there.Currently working on the Epilogue.

by leonelcm - 2 years ago
Mexico City Mexico
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 898

I'm still reading, this is very good stuff, thanx...

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear Carapaima,

Thanks for the clarification.We are on the same wavelength about Karpov being the strongest player from the USSR in 1975. I have put up 2 games and just one analytical position from Karpov's games in this series so far. It is incredible stuff.  

by Carapaima - 2 years ago
BARINAS Venezuela
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 11

Dear Chessbibliophile:   When I wrote: "better than the russian players of the 60`s years", certainly i wanted to say that Karpov was better in this historic moment (1975)  (Petrosian, Spassky, etc, was better in the 60`s).. I don`t forget Tal:  Tal is my favorite player.   But, we are studying the 1975 moment. In this time, Karpov was the better on the world. 

You have reason:  I should have said SOVIET GRANDMASTERS. The  URSS was a great nation.  We never should forget it........thank you for it. 

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear cunctatorg,

Karpov was stronger than Korchnoi in 1974 Match.Similarly his results during the period 1974- 1978 were superior to Korchnoi's. As for their relative strengths during the 1978  Match, the last word is Kasparov's. If you check the link below the article and go through his second interview, you might get a better view.  Karpov's spectacular rise coincided with Korchnoi's relative decline during this period for a variety of reasons. As you know, it was not just chess, it was politics. The older man suffered more.

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear carapaima,

This is in response to the point raised by your second comment.Was Karpov greater than Russian players of 60s? Now it would be more precise to call them Soviet masters rather than Russians.

(That grey official tag Soviet is jarring, there is no other generic shortcut)

The question is, how does one define and measure greatness? If it's a question of talent, so many players of 60s will have to be considered, not to mention Spassky, Petrosian and Korchnoi. And how can one forget Tal? If it's a question of strength, only Korchnoi was competing close to Karpov in 1974 and 1978.

Fundamentally, Karpov himself is against this kind of comparison between players belongning to different periods. Is he greater than Fischer? His answer is no. If you read the book Karpov on Karpov, you can see for yourself the tribute paid by Anatoly to his predecessor.Fischer is the idol of both Karpov and Kasparov. They would not countenance a suggestion that either of them was greater than Bobby.

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
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Dear cunctatorg,

 

As mentioned before, I have not found any statement by Fischer saying that  Spassky wasn't a big deal, Karpov was the really interesting one.It stretches credibility if it is suggested that the statement was made during his match in Candidates'Match,1971.At this point of time Fischer was very guarded and did not like his assessment of his opponents to be known to the other side.In Buenos Aires, Petrosian gave Fischer some anxious moments in the first half of the match.So I doubt if he had time to think or talk about anything else.There is a second point.The score before 1972 between Spassky and Fischer was 3-0, draws not counting. So how could he say, Spassky was not much?The most reliable source on Fischer is always chesshistory.com.

http://www.chesshistory.com/

 If you address a query to Mr.Edward Winter, eminent historian on this site, you can get a categorical answer.

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear Carapaima,

 

Thanks for raising two very important issues.Here I shall deal with the first.The US Government never contemplated using chess or Fischer as part of cold war propaganda.

It was the Soviets who did.They sought to project Fischer as a symbol of  capitalist America, its greed and decadence. The US Government never contemplated using chess or Fischer as part of cold war propaganda.It was the Soviets who did.They sought to project Fischer as a symbol of  capitalist America, its greed and decadence.In fairness to Bobby, he was fiercely opposed to being used for political ends.

( I hope to offer some real proof of this in the concluding part of the series.)

But if we see the wider picture, the cold war did one great harm. It poisoned the atmosphere between whole nations and continents.It fueled fear, suspicion and hatred among people on both the sides.Bobby grew up in that atmosphere and allowed himself to be influenced by those feelings.

 

 

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear forrie,

Without misunderstanding the humour of your comment I shall mention something. In 1975 Fischer was criticised by a number of Americans* for not defending the title even as others tried to justify him.The debate cut across borders and nationality lines.Today also it is similar.There are as many Fischer fans world wide as are his detractors. We need to ensure fair play.

*(Wrote a Wahington Post reader, “Fischer is the only American who can make everyone root for the Russians”.This was followed by a wonderful parody by Art Buchwald, the celebrated columnist.The attitude to Fischer has swung from exhilaration to exasperation all these years. I suppose it's inevitable.)

 

 

 

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear Billyidle,

Some times Bobby did not know where to stop.On this occasion he carried his brinkmanship too far and paid the price for it.

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear Tanmay Chakrabarti,

Thanks for the comment.Yes, the hyperlinks are important.You said it. I wish every reader could go through them.

by tanmay_chakrabarti - 2 years ago
Uttarpara India
Member Since: Jul 2007
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Good article with hyperlink.

by cunctatorg - 2 years ago
Athens Greece
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 "... “Fischer, Karpov and Korchnoi were almost at the same level between 1974 and 1978.”  It is a dubious conclusion, as you have yourself said. Korchnoi’s opening preparation was very unsatisfactory.He often sought very complex middle games and ran great positional risks, leading to defeat in the hands of his younger rival. ..."

 But the fact is that in the long run, namely a long match, Korchnoi's strength was very close to Karpov's strength between 1974 and 1978!...

by Carapaima - 2 years ago
BARINAS Venezuela
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 11

i agree with chessoholicalien.  I want to add that Fischer was a great player  undoubtedly, but he only was used in the  propagandist campaign of the cold war.   he was a product, although the world recognize his talent.  But he knew that Karpov was a excellent player, different, extraordinary (better than the russian players of the 60`s years), and simply declined play the match. 

i think that karpov was  better than Fischer.  For Much!!!!

by cunctatorg - 2 years ago
Athens Greece
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 "... There is another important question also; Fischer was aware of the Karpov's arrival back in 1971! In this very site there was (a month ago or so...) a great article (blog?) about a few incidents during the 1971 Buenos Aires match, in fact an IM (GM?) of the Netherlands (or Brasil...), some van R..... met Fischer there (with his second then, GM Quinteros) and (according to his testimony) Bobby Fischer had said that Spassky wasn't..."

 I did some research but I found nothing, maybe it's in the blogs but it's certainly in this very site... Maybe you could ask the moderators...

by BillyIdle - 2 years ago
Humboldt Park, Chicago United States
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" Fischer insisted on a very long match, because he knew his only real advantage over Karpov was his frail constitution.He hoped Karpov would be losing energy and be worn down in the end."

  Reading between the lines, this could very well be.  As well as being a great world champion, Bobby had always been very shrewd and looking at all  matches and tournaments extremely seriously. This was his life.

by forrie - 2 years ago
Vanderbijlpark South Africa
Member Since: Jan 2009
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very interesting.

whatever his reasons, one cant see Fischer as a hero for not defending his title. But I know americans would disagree :-)

by chessbibliophile - 2 years ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2007

Dear friend,

 

Not that fast.Take it easy. Kasparov never suggested that Karpov was better than Fischer.Do check the link below the article here and have a look at the interview on Fischer. Ideally, see Part IV of My Great Predecessors series. It is devoted to Fischer and his contemporaries. Garry has the highest respect for Fischer. What he has sought to do is to separate the man from the myth so that we can appreciate his contribution to chess.Incidentally, even Kasparov does not make the claim that he is the greatest player of all time.He would leave it to posterity.

Nevertheless, I am happy to see your interest.Keep it up.Please don't mind my contradicting you once in a while.

 

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