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Anand and Adams - Super GM Matches are Super Boring! Draws Deflate Chess Popularity!

Look at this game. What's so exciting? When two Super GMs play it is usually like watching paint dry, water evaporate, or pigs sleeping. I've heard it all: It's because they play so well, the beauty is in the defense not the attack, WHATEVER. I've been to enough tournaments to tell you that nobody crowds around a drawn game. So if your table is drawing a crowd, somebody is losing. I will admit that once in awhile these Super GMs will bust the others position. But more often than not, the games up in a draw. (Unless you go back to pre-Kasparov old age eras)

 


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  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    Silentfilmstar13 said: "This game happened only because two great minds created it.  If they choose to draw, that's their choice, and I fully support it.  While I am mildly disappointed not to get to see a continuation, the game itself I found extremely exciting."

    Are you kidding. Please expound on what you found so exciting. The reason chess can't get solid sponsorship is because of the draw issues. This is a classic example. If you play tournament chess just look around to who is being watched -  Games where somebody is getting trounced.


  • 7 years ago

    silentfilmstar13

    Black is about to re-capture the pawn, so there is no extra pawn.  White's king is in a rather precarious little shack, while black's is, for the moment, quite safe.  So, the advantage, while present, is certainly not clear.  If you don't want to draw this position, reach it in one of your games somehow.  This game happened only because two great minds created it.  If they choose to draw, that's their choice, and I fully support it.  While I am mildly disappointed not to get to see a continuation, the game itself I found extremely exciting.  A game of chess is played for the sake of two people- the men controlling their respective pieces.
  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    Anand has the Bishop Pair and a pawn advantage on what would soon be an open board. I don't think there was a good reason for this game to be a draw.
  • 7 years ago

    tanmay_chakrabarti

    Yes, It is Anand Who is slightly advantagious position.
  • 7 years ago

    N2Deep

    i think they should have finished the game i know im a beginner but i dont see the reason not to white has 1 more pawn than black that could be a slight advantage
  • 7 years ago

    Sprite

    I don't know.  When Sopia's rule (no draws unless legitimate repetition or unable to escape check/stalemate) is used in tournaments, the play tends to be more interesting, and GM's are forced to play out positions they would normally draw.

     However, it's worth pointing out that humans are not computers, as Anand had a game he ended up drawing even though he had a slight advantage as he couldn't convert on it, and was met with strong defense.


  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    Me neither. But I guess if our concerns are draws in chess then life must be good. : )

     


  • 7 years ago

    shadowc

    May be, may be... I never ran for the chess world cup anyway...
  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    shadowc,

    I get your point and I'm on your side. I guess I could see the beauty of the game as the start to something exciting. It's like going to an amusement park and not getting on any of the rides. What's the point of going if you won't finish what you started? Some forms of art are art because they weren't finished. (Like a famous artist that dies before completing a painting) A game of chess that is drawn too early is an abomination because it never becomes what it aspires to be and the artists are capable of completing their work.


  • 7 years ago

    shadowc

    I never said I liked the fact that they agreed to draw. If I was Anand I definitely would keep playing... The thing is, this is a great game so far and should be continued.

    My dislike for the king's pawn opening with black is because of my lack of preparation for a good counter, I'd really like to be an expert on the Sicilian, and I'm sure at some point I will study it.

    But I never say King's pawn openings are boring... May be the four knights opening is boring... But definitely, not a Sicilian or a Ruy Lopez... I don't like to play them, that's all.

    In the bottom line, I agree with the article except for the statement that says this is a boring game. 


  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    Here's a comment from an article by John Nunn, chess author. Let me clarify that he has no problem with a long draw. "On the other hand, to complain about short, peaceful draws is in many cases valid. Chess is one of the few sports or games in which the players can at any moment simply agree not to continue the game. This is a privilege which should not be abused."

    I don't know if there is a good fix.


  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    Jose (shadowc) Weren't you the one that said?

    My Chess Style / Favorite Openings:
    "I love the queen's pawn opening. I hate to play the king's pawn when I get the black pieces. I am very aggressive, I enjoy a good teaching loose, but I really hate to draw."

    Besides, what's so amazing here? These guys didn't want to fight, they wanted to go out drinking or something else.

    I like Maurice Ashley's ideas on educing draws. You should google him sometime.

    Remember, as much as you "hate" to draw, is as much as people like GMs drawing for no reason.


  • 7 years ago

    shadowc

    The game actually looks amazing, not boring. And yes, to my humble analysis, white has some possibilities.

    It looks that white does not want to risk loosing the game going for a win.


  • 7 years ago

    SonofPearl

    I think that banning or at least restricting draw offers would go a long way to stamp out this kind of thing.
  • 7 years ago

    ChessDweeb

    I dislike the fact that the players can pre-arrange draws for the sake of splitting prizes or not losing rating points. Although I sit here and complain, I don't have a good solution. Do you?
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