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I made a video about the Goring, that I want share with you, for each question about it, use the message below!
I suggest this my old post to deepen the topic
I played this for black million times and won all ( but when i played chess main move was Bc6 instead Qb3 ), tournament games or blitz, position is equal but every ending is better for black and if black is player that play good endings it is bad to play this variation with white. :)
Well, honestly I don't see how white can preserve the bishop pair from the above position (after 15...Nf6)- . I'd rather call this position boringly equal.
Lysyj and Ovechkin have published a couple of books on the Bulgarian publisher Chess Stars- one on the Berlin Ruy, and the second one on the other Open Games.
They do not cover 15.Na2, but the move can hardly scare anyone... e.g. 15...Nd5 16.Nxb4 Ndxb4 17.Rc1 Rd6 (17...Rhe8 looks fine too, but Rd6 does allow Black playing ...b6 when needed) when I think white certainly has a few problems with his queenside pawns.
thanks for your message, I think it's very useful.
about 11 ...Nxd4, I agree with you that the position is equal, but white can play an endgame in a open position with bishop pair.
I didn't read about "Lysyj and Ovechkin", do you have a book about it?
after a5, is possible Na2 !?, now b5 is wrong for Nxb4! and if Nd5, I can take the bishop and I will play Rc1, with a bad pawn structure, but with the bishop pair and a good activity.
White is a tad worse in your final position after the simple 15...Rhe8 - very close to equal, but Black has whatever fun there is in the position.
Lysyj and Ovechkin claim that 14.Ra4?! just misplaces the rook after 14...a5 15.Rd1 Rhe8, and I think they are quite right.
Add to that the fact 11...Nxd4 12.Bxb7 Rb8 13.Rxa7 Bc5 14.Ra8 Rxa8 15.Bxa8 Nf6 is just equal, and you can sum the whole thing up to a totally harmless (for Black, at least) variation.
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