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Death Match!

In less than half an hour, Danny and I will contest chess.com's inaugural Death Match, a 3-hour bonanza of chess, sweat, and tears. All levels of members can watch by going to www.chess.com/tv. This is our latest attempt to advance chess entertainment, so we'd really like to get some feedback on:

- Is this interesting? Dramatic?

- Is 1 1 a good time control or would you suggest another one?

- Is 3 hours a good length of time for the match? We wanted something where fitness and stamina would play a role in the contest.

- What players would you like to see in future death matches?

- Would you prefer to hear the players' banter or commentators' analysis?

- How should the prize money be distributed? (Currently it is 50% for the winner, and 50% divided according to percent score).

- Do you have any ideas that would make the event even better?

Thanks! Any feedback would be appreciated. We're hoping to bring you some really great events throughout 2012.

Comments


  • 3 years ago

    Phelon

    I agree a blitz deathmatch would be more fun to watch than a bullet deathmatch. I think 10-20 minutes per player might be optimal, no increment.
  • 3 years ago

    theriverman

    just had to get two women wrestling for your avatar, lol

  • 3 years ago

    FerociousResolve

    interesting, yes... dramatic, sure, why not?... 1 1 is a little fast for me to follow along and calculate, 20 mins or so would work for me... any titled player's games should be instructional, although I'd be interested in seeing and hearing any of our resident GMs at play (Kaidanov, Polgar, Khachiyan, Rakhmanov... they are all great )... 3 hours is fine... prefer to hear the actual player's thoughts but understand this is not always practicable... the money doesn't concern me but your arrangement seems fair.... just keep doing what you're doing, you're awesome at it. rock on!

  • 3 years ago

    gambitgareth

    yeah ive seen that series it is amazing - rensch is a leg end! its easily the best live sessions series out. but i was just thinking of someone sitting on the chess.com live server that isnt playing - but commenting on live games - its slightly different. - but i think i've asked enough things in one evening!!

  • 3 years ago

    IM dpruess

    gambitgareth, we have such videos on our site already-- in fact today's featured vid is one; we call them "live sessions" so if you search videos by that key word you can find them: http://www.chess.com/video/library.html?keyword=live+sessions&author=&players=&opening=&skill_level=&category=

    have a look. i think the authors we have doing it are better than anyone on youtube, otherwise, indeed, i would hire them.

  • 3 years ago

    gambitgareth

    thanks keeganmahoney - I'm now a member! that guy's got game - as our friends might say over in the states :D 

  • 3 years ago

    keeganomahoney

    @gambitgareth ChessNetwoek has a group on chess.com here: http://www.chess.com/groups/home/chessnetwork-global

  • 3 years ago

    gambitgareth

    thats even better, thanks dpruess I just assumed the fee should increase since there is double the vids coming out these days. thanks again.

     

    I was also wondering, theres a guy on youtube under the name of chessnetwork, he 'kibitzes' games live from realtime servers and his series is pretty captivating, I was wondering if chesscom could hire that dude and get him doing that for us on our server as a series or somesuch - he gets like 10k-20k views on his vids, which is pretty high... ^_^

  • 3 years ago

    jhb701

    I want to see Nakamura on chess.comTV. Naka and Hammer. Hammer can charm him into doing a segment.
  • 3 years ago

    IM dpruess

    i continue to appreciate the very useful feedback. thanks everyone!

    since it was brought up let me mention: there is no fee increased with the proposed switch from 5 to 6 video lessons per week. the increase in diamond members has given us the resources to do that, and it's something we'd like to give to our diamond members. the membership cost will remain the same.

    likewise the more people we get on chess tv the more shows we can offer. i'm glad this one had a crowd of about 500 vs. our typical crowd of 100-125.

  • 3 years ago

    stubborn_d0nkey

    1|1 may be a bit too short, but I wouldn't make it much longer, not longer than 2|2 or 3|1. The shorter the time control the more exciting and dramatic the games are, longer time control gives the viewers a greater ability to follow the play and increases the quility of the games, so finding a good balance is important, but I wouldn't go too much in the longer time control direction to keep the excitement. I think leaving an increment makes it easier for you the players to comment/banter while playing (You would know better than I would if it's true), which is a great part of the show.

    3 hours is probably a bit long, if its continuous play, however with breaks in between it would probably be close to optimal. I suggest something like 50min play+10 min break or 45 min play+15 min break. While the players are on break I suggest that a third player (one of you two if you are not playing) picks a few games and analyses and comments on them for the viewers, perhaps this can even be done by the players, each player picks a game and comments on it.

  • 3 years ago

    gambitgareth

    some harsh feedback here. it was good fun i enjoyed it, if its not informative for other players then maybe they should look at how the players played to their book knowledge often made structural breaks and some games had really good tactical shots in them... I want it to continue I have the video lessons if i want more which i am very excited at the prospect of 6 vids a week, I am totally willing to pay the extra fee.

    death match - there wasn't a death, this leads me to believe that it is made in jest, I will apply my sense of humour and not take the program seriously(!) 

    I would like to see more of kaidanov he's a really great teacher and I seem to remember his advice. Same goes for khachian - his endgame course was awesome. Im also really happy to have dzinzi make an appearance now and again I've got a few of his dvds which i totally reccommend.

    Next death match? try kaidanov v khachian... (although as I'm writing this Im thinking that dzinzi knows the polgars... :D). other constructive observations i have is to have the chess.com tv screen with the board on it at all times - we dont need to see the two of you sat there, instead why not get the poet or someone giving a commentary or if pruess and rensch arent on next time they should share their (very brief) thoughts if commentary is what is being requested. Also the money as a theme isn't really doing it for me- its nice to know money is involved and an update on how much each has won so far might be good but I'm happy without the money influencing me :P.

    Thanks again great show - and keep it up!

  • 3 years ago

    ChesuKa

    Interesting? Yes. Dramatic? I think so...

    I think that the time control should be either be 5 or 10 minutes, but any other Blitz time would still be good. Bullet seems a tad too fast.

    3 hours should be changed to 2 hours with a 5-10 minute break so the audience can get a little break as well.

    Any players as long as they're fun and enjoyable to watch. Also ones that have great sportmanship

    Bantering or commentating? I say both, makes the match fun to watch and those watching for educational purposes, get to learn something as well.

    Money distribution shouldn't be changed. Reason being, its perfect as it is.

  • 3 years ago

    ChristianSoldier007

    Who is who in the picture? :P

  • 3 years ago

    hugefightfan

    bsrasmus

    i thought the same thing, but once you tune into one player you're now basically just watching a live session.

    i think they need to do something to make this different

    And for me personally it would suck having to choose who to listen too

  • 3 years ago

    NM Petrosianic

    I prefer 3' + 2", more instructive value and greater opportunity for instruction, fewer blunders, more chess moves and fewer 'bullet' moves. 

    Regarding the match, Danny has some bullet specific lines, and he began to revert to these towards the end of your match; he did mention this fact in his excellent Sicilians course --- for instance, he allowed you to play Bxf8 in a main line 12.Bd4 Dragon when Re8 is normal at a point and he knows that quite well indeed, but he knew that you wouldn't know the refutation immediately to leaving the rook on f8 for too long or you would allow him to get a better position than normal, which happened, [with the additional benefits for Danny is more time to sing and goof around with a 10 point lead and expend less energy and greater familiarity of the position and the time situation - score a few consecutive points and there will be less singing ;-) and a greater concerted effort from Danny]; thus for a few reasons I knew that Danny is the stronger bullet player in the practical sense.  My impression that Danny's board vision was somewhat better in complications in the time pressure, although normally your play with an initiative is one of your strengths in my opinion.  Given these considerations, I thought you did as well as could be expected despite being about the same OTB strength.

  • 3 years ago

    keeganomahoney

    @hugefightfan Commentary would be good from and instructive/educational point of view but I think the point of the death match is entertainment not instructive value, and the commentary would just be so we would at least have some idea of what's going on and so we're not just looking at a chess game with no sound. A 20 or 30 second increment would take away from the excitement IMO

  • 3 years ago

    hugefightfan

    david in response to your last message

    if you are in one room with a mic but no speakers and danny is in a seperate room with his own mic...you both could talk and not be able to hear each other

    if you were to play a 5 or 10 minute game with 20 or 30 seconds of add on time (i think thats what its called, where the 10 minutes doesnt start counting down for 20 or 30 seconds) you would have 20 or 30 seconds to give us your thoughts before having to actually play

    and you can only talk when its your move

    i really think this would work, and be the best way to have educational imput from both sides

    if you decide to use this formate, because of how super awesome it is, i promise not to charge you royalties

  • 3 years ago

    IM dpruess

    just one comment: there have been a couple suggestions of having each of the two players share their thoughts as they play. there's no easy way coming to me for how to arrange their audio streams so that they can't hear each other, but they don't talk at the same time as each other. i think it would be confusing, and we have to stick to ideas that include one single audio stream.

  • 3 years ago

    hugefightfan

    was talking to someone the other day that mentioned, 5-20....the 20 seconds being used to talk about the position or last move

    if you and danny were to play again, have you in seperate rooms, take 20 seconds to quickly fill everyone in on your first thoughts of your opponents move...it would be like playing a 5 min game with no time add on

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