# Double-Reversal Chess

• qixel
• | Jul 7, 2009 at 10:35 AM
• | Posted in: Amy's Blog

I recently discovered this new chess variant: Double-Reversal Chess

Rules

1. On the first move, the black player tells the white player which move to make with the white pieces. The white player must make that move.  On the black player's first move, the white player tells the black player which move to make with the black pieces.  The black player must make that move.

2. This continues each turn, until one side is checkmated.

3. Here's the twist. If the black king is checkmated, the black player wins. If the white king is checkmated, the white player wins.

• 4 years ago

UsaLacrosse wrote:

could u explain and i thought about it i don't get it

1.  The movement methodology is just a ruse.  If you are the black player and telling the white player how to move the white pieces you are actually playing with the white pieces.  It's as if you broke both your arms and you asked your opponent, "Would you mind moving my pieces for me?"

2.  This part is a little more complicated.  If you are the black player in Double-Reversal Chess your goal is to checkmate the black king.  But remember that we just concluded that you are playing with the white pieces.  In regular chess, if you are the white player you are 1) playing with the white pieces and 2) you are trying to checkmate the black king.  But this is exactly what the black player is doing in Double-Reversal Chess.  So being the black player in Double-Reversal Chess is the same as being the white player in regular chess.

So I guess you can tell that Double-Reversal Chess is just a little joke.

• 4 years ago

could u explain and i thought about it i don't get it

• 4 years ago

It's all about defining the four entities involved: "white player", "white pieces", "black player", "black pieces". In this context, "If Black is checkmated, Black wins", means that "black player" should be playing "white pieces" to checkmate "black pieces". Which is the same as turning the board around.

• 4 years ago

Errant_Knight wrote:

Yeah, I agree with SonofPearl.  Playing this type of chess would confuse the heck out of me.  Sounds like the type of chess a schizophrenic person would play :)

Probably true, because Double-Reversal Chess is just an alternative description of regular chess.

Another way to look at it:  Playing black in Double-Reversal chess is the same as playing white in standard chess.

The baroque movement methodology was just meant to throw you off track a bit.

• 4 years ago

Yeah, I agree with SonofPearl.  Playing this type of chess would confuse the heck out of me.  Sounds like the type of chess a schizophrenic person would play :)

• 4 years ago

Wouldn't it be simpler to dispense with the verbal communication and simply turn the board around? Then if black is checkmated, black wins, and if white is checkmated, white wins.

• 4 years ago

I just tried to replicate this on the game explorer.  I was confused after the
third move.  I am double-worse than my poor regular game.
Also, aren't you in essence trying to checkmate oneself?  Shouldn't it be if
black is checkmated, white wins?  Or would that be single-reversal chess?
I just started playing Chess960, and there is a variant called double-Chess960 in which black's back row is scrambled differently than white.  How about Double-reversal double-chess960?  You'd have to be a genius just to figure out the simplest permutations and combinations.