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12th January 2008, 02:27pm
#1
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

So, the latest supertournament is under way with a couple of underdog wins today.

 

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4377

 

My support goes to Kramnik, but he only wins Dortmund so I'm thinking...Carlson might pull it off! 


12th January 2008, 08:14pm
#2
by ghostofmaroczy
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 626

Hi Eric,

Kramnik typically scores +2 which is not enough to win a tournament where somebody will score more wins than that.  You are the second person I have heard say Carlsen will win.  Are you watching the games live?  Games begin 1330 in the Netherlands which is 730 am east coast and 430 west coast.


14th January 2008, 04:51pm
#3
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253
After 3 rounds its Magnus and Aronian in the lead!
14th January 2008, 05:00pm
#4
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
A lot of chess left in Corus but Carlsen and Aronian have both had a great start . The 3 favorites have had a bad start. Anything can still happen but it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
15th January 2008, 01:22pm
#5
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

Round 4 today ended with wins for Polgar, Kramnik, and Van Wely against Gelfand, Eljanov, and Topalov respectively.

 

Carlsen and Aronian are still in the lead by half a point with places 3-6 close behind.

 Exciting chess so far, and I'm glad to see that bum Topalov at the bottom of the heap Laughing.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4385
17th January 2008, 11:33am
#6
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

Topalov gets his first win in round five today, along with Radjabov and Memedyarov.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4390
17th January 2008, 02:00pm
#7
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
ericmittens wrote:

Topalov gets his first win in round five today, along with Radjabov and Memedyarov.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4390

Topalov and Kramnik both only have one win while Anand has none !?  Whats going on here? I cant believe these guys are compared to Fischer or even the players of Fischer's generation.

17th January 2008, 02:14pm
#8
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 952
Topalov is very good player, it s usual on him to start badly the tournaments to then rise as the winner.happened at chess champions league, happened in the Mtel Sofia.he wins when he has to
18th January 2008, 10:12am
#9
by dalmatinac
Croatia
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3201
6.round Magnus Carlsen 1:0 Judit Polgar
18th January 2008, 12:10pm
#10
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 952

there is Topalov rising....

 

19th January 2008, 04:49pm
#11
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

Anand scored his first win today against Polgar. Aronian makes up for his defeat yesterday by beating Radjabov.

 http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4395

 


20th January 2008, 08:37am
#12
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

It seems Topalov's second, Ivan Cheperinov, has taken a page out of his countryman's book and become an ass!

 

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4397

 

Good for Nigel for appealing Cheperinov's behaviour to the arbiter. 


20th January 2008, 09:32am
#13
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 952
That could be possibly the only way of Short to win against Cheparinov.
20th January 2008, 12:13pm
#14
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 952
And making a move before your opponent comes is not very polite.
20th January 2008, 12:36pm
#15
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2138
Smartattack wrote: And making a move before your opponent comes is not very polite.

The tournament controller ensures that the clocks on all boards are started simultaneously at the correct time. Mr. Short, having played his move (1 e4) MUST press the clock, otherwise he would risk losing on time if his opponent never turned up, even though he had moved! It is not impolite to move before your opponent turns up, it is impolite to turn up late!

20th January 2008, 12:45pm
#16
by dalmatinac
Croatia
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3201

Rule is if game start for example: at 3am, 2 hours have both players white play move and black didn't come 2 hours and lost on time he lost game.His time is going he can come before he lost on time and play game.If white didn't come at 3am black press clock and time is going for white if he don't come before his 2 hours left he lost.This don't have nothing with polite.

(sorry for my poor english) 


20th January 2008, 12:50pm
#17
by Unbeliever
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1119
ericmittens wrote:

It seems Topalov's second, Ivan Cheperinov, has taken a page out of his countryman's book and become an ass!

 

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4397

 

Good for Nigel for appealing Cheperinov's behaviour to the arbiter. 


 The decision by the arbiter was not even legal, as the recommendation has yet to be ratified by the FIDE congress.  The arbiter also did not follow the recommendation regarding social behavior during FIDE Matches, as it clearly states that the arbiter must ask the participant publicly to shake his/ her opponent's hand, and in the case of the participant's refusal, to credit the win to the unruly player's opponent.  The arbiter did not follow the FIDE recommendation, so the decision should be nullified, and the game replayed.

 

On a different point however, one must wonder why Short was so emphatic on invoking the rule.  Perhaps he knew it was one of the only ways he would win the match? 


20th January 2008, 12:53pm
#18
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253
That's true about the arbiter, he should've asked Cheperinov first...the decision will probably be overturned. As for Nigel, I don't see anything wrong with the way he acted, rules are rules.
20th January 2008, 12:56pm
#19
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 952
Yes Unbeliever!Cheparinov is rising value, coming from 2670 to 2713, playing in form there was no way Mr Short, who seems to be short also on diplomacy, to win that game.game will be repeated for sure.
20th January 2008, 01:09pm
#20
by Graw81
Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1066
Smartattack wrote: And making a move before your opponent comes is not very polite.

 Its common to make the first move if your opponent is late for the game playing OTB, why would one let their time run out because the other is not there?! Im in agreement with Ray_Brooks regarding clocks being started by the controller. Nigel offered the hand shake when Cheparinov came to the board, the usual manner. Cheparinov refused, twice. Rules are rules and i am glad Nigel pointed the rule out to the arbiter. Why have such rules if they are not to be enforced. You dont have to like your opponent but everyone should be sporting when playing chess, regardless of playing ability. 

 For Smartattack to suggest this was the only way Short could win against Cheparinov is complete rubbish. Sorry, but it is.


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