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Any Competitor to Monroi Chess?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #161


    KBachler wrote:

    GM Ken Rogoff is an accomplished economist (Thomas D. Cabot Professor of Public Policy and Professor of Economics at Harvard University) who has also studied applying statistical analysis to chess cheating.  If you search on Rogoff, chess and  cheating I'm sure you'll find many references

     I think perhaps you are actually referring to 'Ken Regan' (and not the economist and chess GM, Ken Rogoff), an IM and a Professor of Computer Science. He's been an advisor to FIDE regarding these cheating scandals and you can find more on his professional work in this area at :



  • 14 months ago · Quote · #163


    KBachler wrote:

    LOL.  Can't believe I did that, but you are correct.  I was actually reading some econ research of Rogoff's about the same time and had him on the brain! 

     No problem -happens to all of us ;> I know Ken Regan and perhaps that's why I remembered, though, like you, I have also been reading stories about Ken Rogoff as well.


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  • 5 months ago · Quote · #166


    After lots of reading and analysis, I came to conclusion that PlyCounter is a worthy competitor to Monroi. Both Monroi and PlyCounter have their own advantages. But I feel like PlyCounter has a greater community support although Monroi looks better and has a feature to live broadcast your game from you device. PlyCounter's website plycount.com is clearly better than monroi.com in what you get there - forum and games upload, view. I am particularly impressed with Monroi desktop application that has client version for windows, mac and linux (and I use all the of these OSs everyday - sont ask me why).

    One thing would be great to know is if Monroi records time for each move or not - which PlyCounter does. The other thing is while PlyCounter is 4GB but Monroi only has a 4MB flash memory. So how deso Monroi players store their games? Does the games automatically get saved online at monroi.com in their account?

    So I finally ordered PlyCounter a little earlier for my son. I am wondering if I would order Monroi or PlyCounter if the price of both would be same. I am still not sure but would probably think of buying Monroi if the price would be same.

    So the question is whether you are ready to pay $200 more to buy Monroi where the main thing you gain is live broadcast feature of your game at the cost of loosing the better integration points of PlyCounter (which indicates lot more will be coming in this end from PlyCounter over time while Monroi is realtively stable in growth by now).

    PlyCounter is the winner for me at the current state of offerings between Monroi and PlyCounter. I hope Monroi comes up with more competitive offerings as there is no monoply in the electronic score sheet device market any more.
  • 5 months ago · Quote · #167


    ashikuzzaman wrote:

    So I finally ordered PlyCounter a little earlier for my son.

       Way to go!  Maybe we'll see more reviews on it after you've experienced it for awhile?     Smile

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #168


    Sure, i plan to write a long blog post... :-)

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #169


    I have bought Plycounter. Have no experience with Monroi. Have to admit Monroi looks more stylish :-) other than that I am happy with Plycounter. It's a little less polished little rough around the edges, so to say. But it's got no issues when it comes to what it is meant to do. Record games. 

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #170


    I have the Plycounter. 

    The plycounter has more storage space 4gb vs. 500mb

    Its a lot cheaper


    The Monroi.

    200+ dollars more

    500mb of storage

    Bigger screen


    It all comes down to what is important to you.  If youre looking for something 'stylish" then go wth the Monroi.  If you want simpicity, and affordability, and more storage, the go with the plycounter.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #171


    For my club games, I use my ipad app (Chess Pro) and turn most of the setting off and place it on I play both sides. Just put the moves in. At the end of the game look you can look at all the moves, save and send via email to opponent or anyone else. I've been using for last six months. Not approved by USCF yet.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #172


    This may be slightly off-topic, but this discussion made me think about it.

    One of the big advantages I see in the electronic notation is the ability to easily include times for each move; they may not be exact, but pretty close. As a player who often gets into time trouble, it would be a useful tool during analysis to see which moves I took inordinate time on.

    Is it even legal, if one follows the USCF rules closely, to mark time on a pencil-and-paper move sheet? I thought all you could put down was moves (so as to avoid possible gameplay notes, I suppose), but I could have missed the relevant rules.

    The tournaments I've played at have been very low stakes, so I've tended to mark my elapsed time every ten moves or so, but I've always wondered if it was technically a violation...

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #175


    Petrosianic wrote:

    everybody records time of course it's legal.  no rule against it...

    Not only is there no rule against it, it is explicitly allowed in the rules.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #176


    The time can be considered part of the move. What's not allowed is note taking. So there's now a rule stating you can't write down your move before you make it. But that's not a new rule.

    With Monroi, you absolutely can't make the move on Monroi before playing it. That would be tantamount to seeing half a move into the future. For players rated +1800, that should make no difference, but the market for Monroi is mostly for amateurs too lazy to write down their moves correctly in the first place.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #178


    Thanks for the answer; I figured it wasn't a problem, but it's good to know it's explicitly in the rules.

  • 2 weeks ago · Quote · #179


    I think we cross a line here. I think we should stick with pen and paper. There's nothing wrong with that. It's simple and efficient. You can enter the score into Stockfish on your computer or iPad between rounds or at the end of the day, and that would be a good time to review the game or send it off to a friend. I believe there's no place for electronic recording devices at chess tournaments, with the possible exception of carefully controlled environments like the recent world chanmpionship games. The gee-wiz factor is, well, just superfluous.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #180


    I have been using eNotate for over 4 years now.  I do not use it because I am lazy.  I certainly do not cheat either.

    I use it for the following reasons:

    1. There are no longer any problems with trying to read what I wrote as a move, or skipped moves or anything like that.  Now the game score is accurate.

    2. The game score is quickly transferred to a SD card after the game.  It then takes me less than 3 minutes, once home, to put the card in my laptop and load it into my database of personal games and even email copies to my opponent or TD or whatever.  This is a big reason to have this device.

    3. After the game in the post mortem, the position is on the screen so if we get into a long analysis variation, all I need do is look at the diagram and it is really easy to set the position back up to continue the game analysis.  Once again, this benefit is one most don't realize until they use it this way, even when it is the opponent's device being used.

    4. There is an option to keep the time of either the move or the total time, or perhaps both, but I don't want to use these so I disabled this option when it first came available.

    5. I am looking at the PlyCount because there is a problem I have with the eNotate not always playing back the game on the display when reviewing it.  I certainly would welcome an app for the iPad or iPod Touch.  I wouldn't want to tie up my phone for this purpose.

    Yes, I can and have written my moves down.  I just find this electronic score keeping to be better and more accurate.

    I have played with and worked with a Monroi device as a parent of a young man in our club asked me to look at it because he couldn't get it to work.  Monroi had sent him at least 2 replacements and still he said it wouldn't work.  Well, I figured it out.  The processor in it is not as fast as the newer ones.  It is slow to respond.  I had to hold the stylus on the "button" for quite awhile for it to activate to end or save a game, for instance.  This young boy and his father expected it to respond faster as newer technology would, and it can't.  It is slow.  They still aren't using it.

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