Chess Clocks

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10th August 2008, 02:16pm
#1
by Chess_Champion26
British Columbia Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 385

What kind of chess clocks are good quality and cheap?

Where cani find them?

(Preferably Analog)

10th August 2008, 02:25pm
#2
by dwaxe
Thousand Oaks, California United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 1044

http://www.chess.com/equipment/chess+clocks

There are analog clocks there too.

10th August 2008, 02:27pm
#3
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10085

good quality and cheap is generally an oxymoron :)

if you want an affordable analog clock that is solid quality, get a BHB. or just get a cheap chinese clock that is affordable to replace if it breaks?

try:

www.wholesalechess.com

www.chesshouse.com

10th August 2008, 02:27pm
#4
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10085

p.s. i use the Chronos Blitz (button version)

:)

13th August 2008, 07:02pm
#5
by WanderingWinder
United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 832

I'm curious as to your preference for analog. Is it a tradition thing or is there some reason?

Personally I can't stand the things... can't tell how long you have left very precisely, and I always play with either increment or delay, as it prevents ILC headaches.

13th August 2008, 07:08pm
#6
by likesforests
United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 4407

In the USCF and FIDE digital delay clocks are preferred over analog or digital non-delay clocks (meaning even as White my clock is usually used)... something to keep in mind if the rules are similar in Canada, and they probably are. I use the DGT 2010 since that's FIDE's official clock but I hear the Chronos is excellent.

13th August 2008, 08:40pm
#7
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 751

Wind up analogs tend to be surprising inaccurate unless you fiddle with them a bit and they still vary their speed  as they wind down.  I do have a collection of such and the German Jergers, (discontinued and pricey) was the most consistent and accurate.  The electric quartz analogs are excellent and accurate to 20 seconds a month or whatever modern quartz movements are accurate to.  They also set the time in the obvious manner and are reliable and cheap (usually under $25 )fitting all your criteria.   I do not own one but several local players do and the one I grilled on the subject has had no problems.  Click on the link and scroll down this page until you hit "Diamond Quartz". 

http://www.wholesalechess.com/store/chess_clocks 

They do lack a delay feature (which I prefer) getting you possibly involved in extreme time crunches and annoyingly losing an easily won game, but they do have the analog face.  Airline pilot studies supposedly (don't ask me for sources) find they are less distracting although less exact.  If they made a quartz-analog with a delay, I would be tickled pink and it should be easily do-able.  I think Garde made a quartz analog-digital hybrid at one point, but again it was pricey and I am not even sure it had a delay.  Quartz analogs seem to sell under several names and I think I've seen them for even less than $25 and packaged with sets.

Likesforests and WW are essentially correct, and digitals with delays have a legal preference in tournaments, avoiding all sorts of "Insufficient losing chances" arguments not to mention a bizarre recent conflict here between a friend and a visitor that I felt amounted to cheating.  However, I'm with you and stubbornly cling to analogs.  Good luck.

13th August 2008, 08:53pm
#8
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 751

As long as I'm being long winded, I should have mentioned that cheap wind-ups are inferior (less reliable) to BP, Jergers, Garde, or my Russian Jantaz, but the Diamond Quartz is essentially two battery powered $5 clocks with switches and drop flags in the same box.  Cheap, simple and reliable.

13th August 2008, 08:59pm
#9
by likesforests
United States
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Member Points: 4407

Escapest_Pawn> digitals with delays have a legal preference in tournaments

Insisting on using my clock and time control sometimes upsets opponents or throws them off. For example, one assumed that entering a drawn ending with 12 minutes to 2 minutes was winning... but of course with a delay clock, it's no problem making 50 quick moves.

If you go analog--and I agree they're more aesthetically pleasing--remember to prepare for both types of finish (and the rule differences) so you aren't disappointed or surprised. Most players seem able to adapt. :)

13th August 2008, 09:30pm
#10
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 751

I completely agree, likesforests, (and I like forests too) delays are simply superior, making time pressure more manageable and awkward rules unnecessary. As I am obviously in a blabbing mood, the aforementioned conflict involved a visitor down to 10 seconds or so against a friend with 10 minutes or so on an analog clock.  The visitor insisted on changing to a time delay clock which apparently is legal if he halves his time.  The changeover took at least 10 minutes with lots of discussion during which time he was obviously looking at the board.  I felt he should have provided his own delay clock to begin with or been stuck with what was originally available or at least, have to leave the room during the changeover.  As I say, an awkward rule, avoidable if they had simply started with a delay clock.  If I had been playing with an analog of mine, I would have simply run out of time rather that pull such a stunt, legal or not.  Of course, I was ignorant of the rule.

13th August 2008, 09:38pm
#11
by WhitePawn
San Antonio United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 23

Im building my own chess clock for a school project. (Electronics)

So can't get any cheaper!

13th August 2008, 09:54pm
#12
by nimzovich
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 753

likesforest brings up a great point about digital clocks with delays having preference in use between players in making a difference in a game.

once I was late to a game, so my opponent correctly received choice on equipment, choosing an analog (!) clock, hence no time delay...I came close to losing on time, primarily to my slowness being used to having time delay.

Had I been on time, I would have insisted on the digital clock.

I use the Chronos Touch Switch clock, which is not expensive nor easy to use (still learning), but I strongly expect it to outlive my OTB playing career.

I am amazed at the number of different digital chess clocks that some (patient) tournament directors have learned how to set for players ...

13th August 2008, 10:03pm
#13
by Chess_Champion26
British Columbia Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 385

Thank you i will check these out

31st August 2008, 05:34pm
#14
by Markle
Buckhannon,Wv United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 306

I used to live and die with a Master Quartz, nice clock not terribly expensive but when it quit working about a year ago i moved into the digital age and bought a DGT 2000 After using it in several tourn. i must say i am really pleased with it and couldn't imagine going back to a Analog clock.

1st September 2008, 10:27am
#15
by Chess_Champion26
British Columbia Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 385

Thanks

7th December 2008, 04:03pm
#16
by rmacey
atlanta United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 3
Chess_Champion26 wrote:

What kind of chess clocks are good quality and cheap?

Where cani find them?

(Preferably Analog)

This is the problem with chess players.  When you ask them to recommend a simple move, they proceed to offer endless variations and complicated rationales many involving arcane rules.  The question asked for cheap and no one replied with a dollar amount!  lol


7th December 2008, 04:05pm
#17
by rmacey
atlanta United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 3

BTW, I want a chess clock for my son so I came to this forum hoping for an answer....Not sure I got one.  I was hoping more for the

buy x for $y at www.z.com.

Or maybe buy analog for $y at www.z.com or this digital for $x at www.z.com.

7th December 2008, 10:14pm
#18
by likesforests
United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 4407

rmacey> many involving arcane rules.

Arcane? The rules are on the USCF website. If you don't have a digital delay clock, your opponent may replace it, changing the game from G/45 (0s delay) to G/40 (5s delay).

rmacey> BTW, I want a chess clock for my son so I came to this forum hoping for an answer....Not sure I got one.

If winning a particular tourney wasn't real important to my son/daughter and I wasn't sure how long they would be playing, I might consider this ($28) clock:

   http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?cID=0&PID=1831

This ($52) is the classic wooden clock:

   http://www.wholesalechess.com/detail/bhb_chess_clock_special

I use this ($75, digital delay). The official FIDE clock and used by many GMs.

   http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?cID=0&PID=2459

Loomis swears by this ($100, digital delay). Ultra-reliable and popular in the US.

   http://www.wholesalechess.com/detail/chronos_digital_chess_clock_ii_to_button

If you want better answers, be more specific about the budget, your son's age and usual time controls, whether he prefers digital or analog, etc.

11th April 2009, 06:55pm
#19
by Chess_Champion26
British Columbia Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 385

thanks , good enough

 

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