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ifekali

I updated my blog post on the Dubrovnik chess set with new information from various sources. 

http://www.bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/the-dubrovnik-chess-set.html

I try to be as factual as possible with new relevant pictures supporting my research and claims.

-Izmet

andy277

Hi Izmet

Nice blog post. A couple of points: would there really be a chance of misidentifying the bishops and pawns if the bishops' finials were not coloured? Seems to me like that may be a post-design explanation given for a purely aesthetic decision. Also, how tall where the original and 1968 designs? 3.75 inch?

Lastly, how about a post on that original set you showed us a few weeks back?

Thanks.

ifekali

Without the mitre cuts and no opposite finials the bishops would be tough to identify, I imagine. Both 1950 and 1968 designs are exactly the same 3.75 inch size.

Yeah, I'll get to that post eventually ... :-|

-Izmet

FrankHelwig
ifekali wrote:

Both 1950 and 1968 designs are exactly the same 3.75 inch size.

-Izmet

Gregor's replica sets are 89 mm, ie 3.5" -- the orginals were larger?

ifekali

Oh, you are right, the 1950 king (89 mm) is a bit shorter than the 1968 one (92mm), but all other pieces conform nicely to FIDE size II (Staunton 6). I always regard the Dubrovniks as 3,75 inch sets.

-Izmet

goodknightmike
ifekali wrote:

I updated my blog post on the Dubrovnik chess set with new information from various sources. 

http://www.bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/the-dubrovnik-chess-set.html

I try to be as factual as possible with new relevant pictures supporting my research and claims.

-Izmet

Congratulations on your very  nice blog on the history of the Dubrovnik chess sets. But your information regarsding Bobby Fischer using the Dubrovnik set  for the first time at the 1970 Seigen Olympiad in West Gernany is incorrct.  Whers did you get this information?  West German sets were used at this olympiad. I have included some pictures of Fischer and others using the "West German" sets at the 1970 Seigen Olympiad. Olympiad.


 

ifekali

I trusted the (new to me) info at House of Staunton about the Siegen Olympiad.

Sigh. I have some editing to do, again.

-Izmet

FrankHelwig
ifekali wrote:

I trusted the (new to me) info at House of Staunton about the Siegen Olympiad.

Sigh. I have some editing to do, again.

-Izmet

HoS may have gotten this from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Chess_Olympiad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubrovnik_chess_set

ifekali

No, the wikipedia entry was updated very recently, obviously influenced by HoS statements.

-Izmet

goodknightmike
FrankHelwig wrote:
ifekali wrote:

Both 1950 and 1968 designs are exactly the same 3.75 inch size.

-Izmet

Gregor's replica sets are 89 mm, ie 3.5" -- the orginals were larger?

Its appears the Andrija Maurovic design set was made in the 1950s. Below are some pictures of the set. Owner claims  this was given to him for being a runner during the 1950 Dubrovnik Olympiad.  He migrated to the United States in 1955 and brought the set with him. So if his set is not from the 1950 Olympiad, we know for sure this redesign of the original Dibrovnik set is definetely from the 1950s. King height 88mm.

andy277

I do wonder why Andrija Maurović has been credited in numerous sources as redesigning the original Dubrovnik, because to me the differences are not that great to warrant being described as a redesign. But maybe it's just me — I also thought Daniel Weil's 2013 set was a variation rather a redesign of the Staunton set.