Fritz 11 question

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17th January 2009, 10:30am
#1
by Dutchie22
Alphen aan den Rijn Netherlands
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 37

Hi all,

i recently purchased Fritz 11 to analyse my games and have a question about how the program shows you how good your position is. Cause when Fritz is busy analyzing the game, it shows possible moves and "points" in the bottom of the screen like +1.62 to show that White has the advantage. When Fritz has finished though, i can't find those numbers. It just says: 34.Ne6 +-, to show that White has an advantage. Is there a way to see +1.62 in the eventual analyis? I can't seem to find it in the manual.

17th January 2009, 10:36am
#2
by meulmeestere
Leiden Netherlands
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5

What I normally do, is first perform a full analysis. Indeed than you do not get these numbers. Subsequently I perform a Blunder analysis. This last analysis will give you information about your position.

 

Good luck,

Erik

17th January 2009, 10:47am
#3
by Dutchie22
Alphen aan den Rijn Netherlands
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 37

Thanks to both Erik and Xolom for their help!! Fritz 11 is great by the way, especially the database full of games from masters and grandmasters. Lovin it!

15th February 2009, 05:23pm
#4
by Wil_Bloodworth
Dallas, Texas United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 41
Xolom wrote:

yeah, above poster is right. blundercheck is a relic from when computers just did number analyses (the numbers you see, like -0.72 for example)

full analysis gives language

plus you can run through the full analysis while on infinite analysis mode to get numbers. give it a few moments to get a more accurate value.


Mine doesn't give language at all.  In fact, it's extremely poor. The Chess.com analysis is far above better than what I'm getting from the Full Analysis feature of Fritz 11 + Deep Rybka 3.  Do I need to use a different engine for analysis?

16th February 2009, 11:02am
#5
by Ziryab
Spokane, Washington United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1363
Wil_Bloodworth wrote:

Mine doesn't give language at all.  In fact, it's extremely poor. The Chess.com analysis is far above better than what I'm getting from the Full Analysis feature of Fritz 11 + Deep Rybka 3.  Do I need to use a different engine for analysis?


You need to check the box that labeled "verbose" when you start full analysis if you want language comments.

23rd February 2009, 02:38pm
#6
by Catalyst_Kh
Kharkov Ukraine
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 1222

I prefer another method, maybe you will find it interesting. For first, i analyze manually with fritz opening book, even after the point the game went off the book i look what is typical plans and continuations in the book later in this opening line, that teach you something and you are more prepared for the next time. Then, after opening book, i am manually looking for lines from infinite analyze box, move by move, there is many interesting lines, sometimes leading to surprises and a lot of alternative plans in the game - full analyses will not show all this stuff. So i, sometimes for first briefly, mark where was bad moves (mine and my opponent) and where and witch good moves we both missed, and after that look every mark more or less detailed, depend on interest in it, with that you can learn much more, because you will see a lot of alternative lines, rather then just one best move, and after you will think how and why did you miss this or that, how you need to think next time to be able found such things, and etc - then you dont need any "language" analyzes at all. Sometimes i cant determine why that line or move better then other, then i am asking somebody, that is also much better. You can ask at this forum also, in analyzes section.

 

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