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Scid tips and tricks


  • 9 months ago · Quote · #1

    rooperi

    Maybe it's time to have a forum topic for SCID questions and answers.

    Please feel free to ask what you don't know, and answer what you do.

    1. SCID can be downloaded here, free: http://www.chess.com/download/view/scid-422
    2. It comes packaged with a few engines, but I suggest adding Houdini 1.5 or Stockfish 2.0 ( Or strong commercial engines, if you have them)
    3. SCID stands for Shane's Chess Information Database. You need games, a good place to get a lot of games is here: http://www.pgnmentor.com/files.html
  • 9 months ago · Quote · #2

    tonymtbird

    isnt't chessDB a newer version??  also last time i used it the database links were no longer working.....

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #3

    MarcazzarSmish

    how do you get all the games and openings from pgnmentor or where ever else you can get them, onto Scid?

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #4

    rooperi

    Setting up your database:

    OK, you have a collection of pgn games, you now have to make a Scid database. Scid can work with pure pgn, but to access all the functions you have to convert it to Scid format. I like to have a large main database, which contains lots (millions) of games, and then make smaller ones out of that for training and such.

    1. On the file menu click new, give a name for your database, and save it where you can find it again.
    2. On the file menu, select Import file of pgn games, and select you pgn collection. It is possible to select multiple files.
    3. On the file menu, click maintenance, and ECO classify games. Choose the option with Scid extensions, it just gives you more options.
    4. Hey, you got a database!
    5. Keep your datbase updated weekly from the TWIC site with the weekly free download.
  • 9 months ago · Quote · #5

    kwaloffer

    Things I use in Scid that aren't all that obvious:

    - The Clipbase. You first search for the games you want to look at in the main database, and when you have them, you copy them into the clipbase. You do that with the Database switcher window (ctrl-D). Let's say you have 300 Kasparov games out of 1,000,000 total selected in "mainbase", then you would see "300 / 1000000" under mainbase in that window. You can drag the "300" into the Clipbase. Switch to it, and now you can use all the usual stuff like opening reports, trees, searches etc only on the 300 selected games.

    - Pattern search. You can actually look for games with a white IQP and black having a pawn on c6 and open d and e files, with a queen, two rooks, two bishops and a knight for both sides.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #6

    Elroch

    Here's my scid tip. Try chessdb. Smile

    [If you don't know what chessdb is, it's another free chess database, an alternative fork from the same ancestor software]

    [EDIT: just noticed others have drawn attention to chessdb]

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #7

    kwaloffer

    Why is ChessDB better?

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #8

    Elroch

    Try it and make up your own mind. I recall the functionality was somewhat superior.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #9

    rooperi

    kwaloffer wrote:

    Things I use in Scid that aren't all that obvious:

    - The Clipbase. You first search for the games you want to look at in the main database, and when you have them, you copy them into the clipbase. You do that with the Database switcher window (ctrl-D). Let's say you have 300 Kasparov games out of 1,000,000 total selected in "mainbase", then you would see "300 / 1000000" under mainbase in that window. You can drag the "300" into the Clipbase. Switch to it, and now you can use all the usual stuff like opening reports, trees, searches etc only on the 300 selected games.

    - Pattern search. You can actually look for games with a white IQP and black having a pawn on c6 and open d and e files, with a queen, two rooks, two bishops and a knight for both sides.


    Yeah, the clipbase is an important function.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #10

    stadjak

    Chess.com offers analysis of games, where I suppose it picks significant swings in the evaluation of positions from the previous position and follows recommended alternatives.  This is provided as variants to the main-line with +/- type comments.

    Is there a way to get Scid to do this for a list of games overnight?  It would be undesirable if there were too many comments.  I think chess.com hits the right threashold for suggesting an alternative line.

    Any suggestions?

    (btw: great topic)

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #11

    WhitePawn

    Last update for chessDB: August 2007

    Last update for SCID: February 2011

    Also: http://scid.sourceforge.net/download.html for 4.3 instead of 4.2.2

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #12

    rooperi

    stadjak wrote:

    Chess.com offers analysis of games, where I suppose it picks significant swings in the evaluation of positions from the previous position and follows recommended alternatives.  This is provided as variants to the main-line with +/- type comments.

    Is there a way to get Scid to do this for a list of games overnight?  It would be undesirable if there were too many comments.  I think chess.com hits the right threashold for suggesting an alternative line.

    Any suggestions?

    (btw: great topic)


    1. choose the games you want to analyze
    2. drag them into clipbase
    3. make clipbase the current base
    4. open the engine window
    5. click on the annotate icon at the bottom.
    6. click the "Annotate several games from current to..." checkbox
    7. The number of the last game is set by default, you can change that
    8. For fewer comments, increase the threshold number (default .2 is too small for me)
    9. Click OK
  • 9 months ago · Quote · #13

    kwaloffer

    And remember that your annotated games are now in the Clipbase, so not saved yet! You need to drag them into a real database for that.


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