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PolarChess.. That was my fear as well on the black dyed pieces. I think you could get black shoe dye & fix the faded black pieces if it comes to that. Frank.. I have the Shessham set from Chess Bazaar & it looks identical to the Dubrovnik 2 on the NOJ site unless I am missing something here. I wonder what ifkali AKA Jonas thinks of the Chess Bazaar version? For the price & free shipping its close enough to the real Dubrovnk for me at least. Its really a great set of pieces IMO.
You may want to credit the chess museum when you are using their pics...
Also, I am sceptical of any claims made by HoS. They have a long track record of making stuff up. As for their Dubrovnik replica set, it is pretty close, and I'm sure there were variances of the 1970 sets floating around, so who can tell for sure what the definitive design of the set is supposed to look like. From what I can tell, HoS at a minimum changed the knight a little, and increased the overall size of the set to 3.75".
You get angry about no credit for an image nobody cares about and then you defame HOS, an honourable company, without one example? Shame on you!
To the best of my knowledge the original 1970 Dubrovnik had a 3.75-inch King. I agree the knight has been changed; it has been improved without drastic measures. The rest of the pieces appear to be the same as an original chess set made in Zagreb.
Polarchess.. Frank is a supporter of HOS. If you read his many posts about HOS he has only good things to say about them. The HOS Dubrovnik is a nice set without a doubt. The Queen's Coronet has been changed from the original which you can see on the NOJ chess site. Its still a close copy of a nice looking set but, in No Way an Exact Copy.!
I wasn't angry, and didn't mean to come across that way. Merely pointing out that it's good manners to credit someone when using their picture (something I haven't always done myself).
As for HoS - I like them and buy from them frequently. Doesn't mean I have to buy their Marketing claims. To show that I'm not actually "defaming" them, here's 3 examples:
- they claim the 1970 Dubrovnik was redesigned for the chess olympiad in Siegen/Germany. As others have posted in threads here (including photographic evidence), a German design was used in Siegen, not a Dubrovnik
- they claim a fictitious provenance for the "Zagreb" set, which has no basis in fact. The set used in 59 in Zagreb was a Portoroz set (to the best of my knowledge). The HoS Zagreb is just a made-up design
- The were selling a set under the "New York Series" name, which they were previously selling as a BCC replica under the name "BCC London Series", claiming it was a replica of a BCC set from the 1920s. In fact, BCC stopped producing sets around the turn of the century, and the HoS set was modeled after an Ayres set
Points well made Frank.! The HOS Dubrovnik is a very nice set & I almost ordered one myself. Compared to the NOJ version which is out of my price range. Then I read goodnightmike's thread about the Chess Bazaar version & pulled the trigger. The price including free shipping was too good to pass up. The Dubrovnik version is evey bit as high quality as another set I bought from HOS. The craftsmanship on both is superb.!
Hi Frank, no hard feelings, thanks. I do agree that HOS can be a bit aggressive with their marketing; however, before HOS showed up the quality of chessmen available to the public had diminished to the point that most sets were junk. HOS turned it around and the other manufacturers had to increase the quality of their chessmen.
Thats a good point polarchess.! It seems HOS got everyone upping the quality of their sets. They do offer some nice sets including the Dubrovnik set. All the finer sets are mostly made by 2-3 manufacturers in India. Even Jaques of London are now made in India.
That is true polar chess, HoS revived the market for quality chess sets in North America, and we are all better off for it...
I haven´t bought the CB Dubrovnik yet, but today a friend brought me a Noj Dubrovnik and a HoS Dubrovnik that he bought for me on eBay.
The HoS is a great set, but the Noj is simply amazing (I don´t know why, but it came with 5 queens).I must confess that perhaps I did not pay attention properly to the HoS, having received both sets at the same time.
I will wait for the 4" CB.
I share some pictures I took.
Very nice indeed!! Welcome to Dubrovomania. You are defintely a menber!!
What's the sqaure size of your board? Pieces look good on these squares.
Is that one of Ifekali's magnetic boards?
That date stamp is throwing me off, I can't NOT stare at it...
Also: a friend bought you a Noj set? Really? If he/she has a ton of cash to spare I'll happily forward my adress...
Nice NOJ set & board. Thanks for the pics.!
The board is one of those made by Ifekali, its name is Beatrice and the squares are about 2.2" (56 mm).
Usually, when I want to buy a chess set on eBay or HoS, I transfer the money to a friend who lives in the US and he buys it for me. Many of the sellers on eBay (like the one who was selling the NOJ) ship only within the US.
Also, sorry for the date stamp on the pictures.
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