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1. e4 vs 1. d4


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #121

    Fear_ItseIf

    After playing d4 for a while and now learning e4....
    both are obviously = but i find myself attacking kingside in 1.e4 while d4 i had to manuever and stuff just to break queenside before i got destroyed on the opposite.

    At this time im enjoying e4 more but if you like playing against the KID and benoni i think d4 is potenitally more lethal

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #122

    jambyvedar

    Yereslov wrote:

    It's a shame the King's Gambit is avoid at the GM level.

    It makes chess so much more exciting.

    Wrong King's Gambit is seen from time to time at GM level.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1584993

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1473054

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1634564

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1641821

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #123

    Yereslov

    jambyvedar wrote:
    Yereslov wrote:

    It's a shame the King's Gambit is avoid at the GM level.

    It makes chess so much more exciting.

    Wrong King's Gambit is seen from time to time at GM level.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1584993

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1473054

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1634564

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1641821

    From time to time maybe, but that's also the case for the Parham Attack.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #124

    winnersp

    e4 rules.d4 is not purely logical in my table logic.It leads to some opening weakness.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #125

    JariIkonen

    both out the window and in with f4 and c4.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #126

    ballak200

    i cant play d4 because of kings indian defense.what is your ideas?

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #127

    Fear_ItseIf

    ballak200 wrote:

    i cant play d4 because of kings indian defense.what is your ideas?

    avoid it

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #128

    Yereslov

    1.d4 is more positional. 1.e4 is more aggresive.

    Both openings are good choices.It depends on whether you are an attacking player or a defensive one.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #129

    DrSpudnik

    If you look at games of Spassky or Kasparov, you can't say that 1.d4 is not "more aggressive".

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #130

    AnthonyCG

    They had no problem making trouble on either side of 1.d4.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #131

    DrSpudnik

    Yes. The activity or passivity of an opening move has more to do with the person playing it than the move itself.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #132

    Yereslov

    1.d4 isn't aggreesive from the start. 1.e4 openings can go directly to attack within a very short period of time. 1.d4 openings provide more king safety and thus make attack impossible until at least the middle game.

     

    15 moves:

     

    22 moves:

    Attack isn't as immeditate in 1.d4 openings. 


  • 24 months ago · Quote · #133

    Scottrf

    A 'boring' player in d4.



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #134

    Yereslov

    I love it when players claim that 1.e4 has been studied to death in comparison to 1.d4.

    Have you studied the QGD or the King's Indian? There is barely anything there that has not already been scanned and studied by someone else.

    It's not any less studied than the Ruy Lopez.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #135

    Yereslov

    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #136

    Scottrf

    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #137

    Yereslov

    Scottrf wrote:
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

    It doesn't take a 2000+ rated player to realize that checking the king and then having to move the queen to a passive position is a mistake.

    Actually, checking with Houdini it agree, so obviously this "theory" can be disregarded as a waste of time.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #138

    Yereslov

    Scottrf wrote:
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

    By the way, this Super GM gave up a pawn for nothing. Not even a lowly 1400+ rated player would make that kind of mistake.

    By simply playing 9...Qc7 he has a nice position.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #139

    Scottrf

    Such a nice position white wins 55% of games in the line on chessgames and loses 21%.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #140

    Yereslov

    Scottrf, it's much better than giving up a pawn for nothing. 9...Qc7 is the best move in that position.

    It can't really be argued.


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