13339 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Bg5 Ne4
Does anyone know any good sources or have any helpful advice for playing the black side of this line?
Its called the torre attack. Google it.
its covered extensively in the new torre attack move by move book by palliser (which i quite good).
Its going to be difficult to find sources on it as it is a sideline, here is what palliser has to say about it."3..Ne4!? This active leap was quite popular back in the early days of the torre being used against 2..g6, but is now rarely seen at grandmaster level. However, the move is still seen on occasion at club level, largely from two sometimes related types of player: creative folk who like to go their own way as early as possible and players with no line prepared against the torre who want to get white away from the mainlines."Palliser, page 112 'Torre attack, move by move'.4.Bh4 is the main move according at palliser, which i find somewhat odd considering the trompowsky advocated bf4, maybe this is because g6 has not been commited yet in the tromp, so a h6 g5 would waste time?However palliser does list Bf4 as an alternative.I had a flick through the chapter and it seems that this will likely lead to a somewhat passive, slow position with pieces being traded off into a dead equal position.Some hints: After 1.d4 nf6 2.nf3 g6 3.bg5 ne4 4.Bf4 Many white players may try nbd2, nxd2 qxd2 and attempt to exchange the fianchetto bishop via h6. However this will be like white playing the barry attack a tempo down and is nothing to worry about.I think following ne4 with c5 is slightly annoying for the torre player.
This is because usually torre players would like to answer c5 with e3, however unlike in 1.d4 nf6 2.nf3 e6 3.bg5 c5 4.e3 Qb6, white has no good gambit from this position, so many torre players may make the mistake of playing e3 naturally in their systematic mood and reach an awkward position, so personally id probably play this line, (assuming i had to play ne4, i think the e6, c5 lines are stronger).
I was asking about a specific line of the torre. I googled before posting here. May I suggest that you try and understand a post before replying to it?
Fear_Itself, thanks for the explanation.
Do Americans tend to flame more on live chess
by incantevoleutopia 4 minutes ago
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5 ?
by yureesystem 5 minutes ago
Strategy and positional play book
by kleelof 11 minutes ago
Why I won't pay for a membership...
by OrganicCloud 11 minutes ago
by BenTen24075 13 minutes ago
Is This a Playable Gambit?
by XPLAYERJX 15 minutes ago
by doodledoo3 16 minutes ago
How Lonnnnnnnng Untilllllllll V3???
by BryPin 17 minutes ago
by FischerWasSane 22 minutes ago
What to Study
by Chicken_Monster 25 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2015 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!