I would not play this line black gets early equality and doesn't even have to work for it. Play the Yugoslav against Dragon, English against najdorf and u should be fine.
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5!?
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Just in case yall peeps cant visualize it.
GMRobinHood wrote:
As I'm quite a terrible player against the Sicilian, I usually try to deviate from well-known lines like the Najdorf where Black has a clear plan in mind and where, most of all, I'm supposed to know my theory. Thus, I've recently tried out 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 (here is the game). Does anyone play it? Is it worth something (by that I mean, normally drawish but somewhat good for White if he knows what to do)?
Thanks.
It surely isn't the best way to play against the Sicilian, but it's playable since White still gets a very small advantage due to the having the advantage of moving first.
Stavros_34 wrote:
If you want to avoid the theoretical open Sicilians play Anti-Sicilians 2.c3 , 3.Bb4+ in d6 lines or transpose to the kings Indian defense with g3, Bg2 e.t.c
Did you mean the "King's Indian Attack"?
Thx for your answers guys.
KM101 wrote:
It surely isn't the best way to play against the Sicilian, but it's playable since White still gets a very small advantage due to the having the advantage of moving first.
This is also how I evaluated it: equal or at best slightly better for White. The thing is, I would rather give Black early equality in a position he doesn't know than being theoritically a bit better in a position I don't know how to play. And since it is pretty much the kind of set-up where I can play the best move 7-8 moves in a row on my good days, well, I definitely like it.
Stavros_34 wrote:
If you want to avoid the theoretical open Sicilians play Anti-Sicilians 2.c3 , 3.Bb4+ in d6 lines or transpose to the kings Indian defense with g3, Bg2 e.t.c
Mmh, maybe you're right. But isn't 3.Bb4+ also giving Black early equality?
Continuing OPs line, dxe5 Nxe5 a6 Be2 e6 and blacks not only fine but stockfish gives -0.07 to black. On move seven black already has not only equalised but is slightly ahead. I just don't see the point in giving up my early initiative as white for this line. I don't like them but maybe try a closed system like the grand prix or alapin.
ewq85 wrote:
Continuing OPs line, dxe5 Nxe5 a6 Be2 e6 and blacks not only fine but stockfish gives -0.07 to black.
The point is rather to go a4-g3-Bg2 (and Nc4 when ...Qc7 comes) in these lines. A computer may evaluate it as very slightly better for Black, but White still has some initiative with the LSB I think.
I must agree with ewq85 on this one. Their are tons of lines white can play that give white a small small edge that are still ok for white. You do not have to play the Open Sicilian to do that. That is just 1 popular category of playing against the Sicilian. Others categories are still out their. Closed Sicilians, Anti-Sicilians, Gambits, and Side line variations.
Those are 4 other categories which white can use to play against the sicilian and in those other 4 categories exist tons of different lines.
Their is a difference between getting equality for the moment and getting equality for a long while.
The line you are playing is giving black equality for a very long time. In chess people look for pawn breaks e5 can be 1 of whites pawn breaks. The way you are using it is causing a huge structure change. After the exchanges of the pawns whites pawn breaks are greatly reduced. Look at the below diagram and try and figure out how you plan to cause pawn tension. Which is what pawn breaks are.
When you actually look at how to make pawn tension(pawn breaks) you can see you virtually have nothing.
Your C pawn is blocked by your knight. The D pawn will be exchanged by blacks C pawn becuase that is the whole purpose of black playing the Sicilian is to do that exchange. So what Pawn breaks are you left with?
The only 2 other breaks I see are with either your B pawn or F pawn. However, even those will take a long time to make happen. Even if they do happen it still unclear how they plan to help in this position.
ewq85 said stockfish believes black has a slight advantage here. It does not surpise me that stockfish believes that. White has no pawn breaks and the ones he does have will take a very long time to develop.
GMRobinHood wrote:
ewq85 wrote:
Continuing OPs line, dxe5 Nxe5 a6 Be2 e6 and blacks not only fine but stockfish gives -0.07 to black.
The point is rather to go a4-g3-Bg2 (and Nc4 when ...Qc7 comes) in these lines. A computer may evaluate it as very slightly better for Black, but White still has some initiative with the LSB I think.
Dude if that is your plan WOW.
I love fianchetteo lines.
If that is your plan why not play positions with fianchetteo lines that are amazing.
In the below catagories exist Fianchetteo lines
- Closed Sicilian
- Open Sicilian
- Side line variations
Their are fianchetteo lines in all of them catagoires and the theory is not really hard at all.
The difference is you keep your pawn breaks flexible and you retain a small advantage whole time.
In Fact I saw Magnus Carlson play a game with the KIA I believe it was with a 0.15 advantage many people would believe thats completely equal. The whole game he had that small advantage which seemed absolutely like nothing and in the end the advantage started going huge because he was able to convert that small advantage into getting a queen with a king and pawn endgame.
As I'm quite a terrible player against the Sicilian, I usually try to deviate from well-known lines like the Najdorf where Black has a clear plan in mind and where, most of all, I'm supposed to know my theory. Thus, I've recently tried out 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 (here is the game). Does anyone play it? Is it worth something (by that I mean, normally drawish but somewhat good for White if he knows what to do)?
Thanks.