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Is this actually an opening? I thought it was something beginners used because... well because they were beginners and they didn't think losing a bishop was a big deal.
What about this?
Why should white in the given way? For example:
Oh... it's really great. White will have trouble deciding if he wants to win with 5.Nc3 or 5.d4, and he will lose on time. Satanic plan!
1.e4 e5, 2.Nf3 Bc5, 3.Nxe5 Qh4?! wouldn't it be just be fine to play
4.d4! after 4 ... Qxe4+, 5.Be3 White might not have any material advantage, but I think much better development.
Though I might be wrong with this idea, as I have never looked at this strange opening of Black.
I've got it!!! This is a proper opening for Black. Beat that!!!
Please be relevant, helpful & nice!
Beat what? OK, 6.Qd3 isn't such a good move, but didn't you blunder something as Black? (7...d6? 8.Qb5+ and game over).
Why bother to take the pawn in the first place? I know the way to refute some of these dubious openings is to just grab any loose material they leave laying around, but isn't white perfectly alright after simple developing moves like 3.Nc3 or 3.Bc4? Even 3.d4 may be playable. I've played dozens of blitz games with the line 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Nc6 5.c3 Nf3 and now either 6.cxd4 or 6.e5 (or 6.b4 if you're really adventurous) and white has a good attack. Maybe theoretically unsound, but tough to prove OTB in fast games......
Why bother to take the pawn in the first place?
Because it's not just a free pawn: taking it gives white central control.
Since it's safe to take it, I can't see why not!
Because 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Bc5 3.Nxe5 1-0 black resigns lol
Seriously, I only see this in blitz, and I don't remember it ever beating me. Black gives up a pawn for nothing.
One problem with playing too much blitz for some players is they use lines over and over which are not optimum and what will they do when a game comes up which is not blitz?
I think this is one reason a master teaching a student will advise not too much blitz.
In some of your lines white is simply better. For example after the blue 10.d5 Nxe5 11.Qxg2 white is much better. And both variations in red on move 10 end with white in a nice position. On 10.Ne5 add at the end of it 12.e5 And on 10.Nd2 add 12.Qb5+ Bd2 13.Qxb2 Bc6 14.Qc8+ etc.
But even in the mainline. If the threat is 10...Nxe4 then play a simple move like 10.Bd3 to stop it. 10.Bg5 is no good if it helps black.
@wafflemaster: "Because 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Bc5 3.Nxe5 1-0 black resigns lol" Of course! Silly me! How could I miss this move: 'black resigns' ? I guess the critics are right, though. White might as well grab the pawn, since after 3...Bxf2+ black seems to get little more than a couple of pawns for the piece and a bad position. I found the game Mihalichenko - Tikhiy from 2010 where black tried 3...d6 after Nxe5, but white simply played the knight back to f3, and black got absolutely nothing for the pawn. I thought it was interesting in that black was rated 2427 at the time.
pfren first i din't see what you meant, but this is a great threat:
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