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1.e4 f6?!


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #181

    BirdBrain

    Since so many people insist on giving 2...g5 as the obvious reply in the Barnes, why not use it on the terrible Sicilain Defense?  I mean, only losers like Kasparov play such a trashy attempt against 1. e4.

    You guys give me a good laugh.  Melvin, you are correct about the gambit - we discussed that already.  

    For everyone who posts a silly response about the Barnes, I will give you an equally ridiculous proposal.  Hey, let's discuss the stupid Ruy Lopez too - only losers play that one too.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #182

    AndyClifton

    gambitlover wrote:
    I play for fun, not to save the world.

    Oddly, I do play to save the world (with predictably lamentable results).

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #183

    pauix

    BirdBrain wrote:

     

    Since so many people insist on giving 2...g5 as the obvious reply in the Barnes, why not use it on the terrible Sicilain Defense?  I mean, only losers like Kasparov play such a trashy attempt against 1. e4.

    You guys give me a good laugh.  Melvin, you are correct about the gambit - we discussed that already.  

    For everyone who posts a silly response about the Barnes, I will give you an equally ridiculous proposal.  Hey, let's discuss the stupid Ruy Lopez too - only losers play that one too.

     


    That's just ridiculous. A real Bongcloud player would never push his king back unless he's forced. 13...Kxc3! is way better, followed by Kb2.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #184

    Michael-G

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  • 16 months ago · Quote · #185

    melvinbluestone

    chrisr2212 wrote:

    i think i will smash my guitar now


     This is another thing wrong with 1...f6: Apparently, it induces strange acts of violence. ..... Didn't Alekhine supposedly smash all the furniture in his hotel room after losing a game? I wonder if 1...f6 was involved?

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #186

    BirdBrain

    pauix wrote:
    BirdBrain wrote:

     

    Since so many people insist on giving 2...g5 as the obvious reply in the Barnes, why not use it on the terrible Sicilain Defense?  I mean, only losers like Kasparov play such a trashy attempt against 1. e4.

    You guys give me a good laugh.  Melvin, you are correct about the gambit - we discussed that already.  

    For everyone who posts a silly response about the Barnes, I will give you an equally ridiculous proposal.  Hey, let's discuss the stupid Ruy Lopez too - only losers play that one too.

     


    That's just ridiculous. A real Bongcloud player would never push his king back unless he's forced. 13...Kxc3! is way better, followed by Kb2.


    Pauix, I am sorry - I am not trained in the ancient art of the Bongcloud - thank you for your top secret analysis!  Say, how much do you charge to teach Bongcloud by the way?

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #187

    gambitlover

    melvinbluestone wrote:

    . Remember, Tony Miles beat Karpov with 1...a6. Come on! 1...a6?!


    Not only Tony Miles beated a world champion with 1. .. a6 !  112 years before in a simultaneously game against Joseph Henry Blackburne and Wilhelm Steinitz (world champion 1866-1894) one of the black players, John Baker, chose 1. .. a6 as first move in both games and won them both, while most of his colleagues in the display, who chose more acceptable openings, were mercilessly beaten !

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #188

    gambitlover

    chrisr2212 wrote:

    no melvin! the plan of f6 is to support g5


    No, f6 is not to play g5 or e5, the better idea is preparing the maneuver Nh6-f7.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #189

    pauix

    BirdBrain wrote:
    pauix wrote:
    BirdBrain wrote:

     

    Since so many people insist on giving 2...g5 as the obvious reply in the Barnes, why not use it on the terrible Sicilain Defense?  I mean, only losers like Kasparov play such a trashy attempt against 1. e4.

    You guys give me a good laugh.  Melvin, you are correct about the gambit - we discussed that already.  

    For everyone who posts a silly response about the Barnes, I will give you an equally ridiculous proposal.  Hey, let's discuss the stupid Ruy Lopez too - only losers play that one too.

     


    That's just ridiculous. A real Bongcloud player would never push his king back unless he's forced. 13...Kxc3! is way better, followed by Kb2.


    Pauix, I am sorry - I am not trained in the ancient art of the Bongcloud - thank you for your top secret analysis!  Say, how much do you charge to teach Bongcloud by the way?


    The best way to learn the Bong is through practice. 

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #190

    BirdBrain

    gambitlover wrote:
    melvinbluestone wrote:

    . Remember, Tony Miles beat Karpov with 1...a6. Come on! 1...a6?!


    Not only Tony Miles beated a world champion with 1. .. a6 !  112 years before in a simultaneously game against Joseph Henry Blackburne and Wilhelm Steinitz (world champion 1866-1894) one of the black players, John Baker, chose 1. .. a6 as first move in both games and won them both, while most of his colleagues in the display, who chose more acceptable openings, were mercilessly beaten !


    Just think if he would have chosen 1...f6 - they would have cowered and ran like little girls!  Oh, the audacity of thinking he DARE push his f-pawn one more square.  Just who does he think he is anyway?

    Thank gambit!  Appreciate guys like you who always bring up something like me that makes this dull discussion of only what is theoretically acceptable more lively!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #191

    hessmaster

    melvinbluestone wrote:
    chrisr2212 wrote:

    i think i will smash my guitar now


     This is another thing wrong with 1...f6: Apparently, it induces strange acts of violence. ..... Didn't Alekhine supposedly smash all the furniture in his hotel room after losing a game? I wonder if 1...f6 was involved?


    Also just to add on...didn't Alekhine once throw his queen across the room? And didn't a player once sneak into the tournament hall and cut off the heads of all the queens...? The list is going on...f6 is the culprit!!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #192

    BirdBrain

    Hey Chris, here's a great Sicilian line for you to research too:

    I think this would go good in your collection!
  • 16 months ago · Quote · #193

    BirdBrain

    Hang on, let's find some more ridiculous defenses.  Here's one I heard of before called the Caro-Kann, or better yet, the joke of the century:

    How about the Petroff - AKA Loser's Defense?

    Since it makes so much sense to promote ridiculous lines in the Barnes, why not promote them in the main openings too?  

    It makes sense to expose the weaknesses in the Barnes Defense.  Not one of us who defended it ever claimed it was par to any of the defenses I just posted ridiculous lines in.  You guys simply remind me of people who only do what you are told to do.  They tell you you must eat soup with a fork - well, you're gonna do it.  They say play Sicilian - you rush out to buy the newest book.  Ruy is the new thing?  Well, let's chase that car tire.

    In the mean time, you cannot tell me one good thing about 1. e4 f6.  I challenge you (EVERY ONE OF YOU) who thinks it is stupid to actually refute it.  Don't post 2...g5 - that shows your lack of creativity.  I want to see the actual refutation.  Get your Fischer ballcap on, big boys.  Until then, keep drooling with 2...g5 and I'll keep posting stupid lines in your beloved openings.  Makes almost as much sense to me.  

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #194

    gambitlover

    chrisr2212 wrote:

    the Nh6 line goes...

    Next...

    the problem with f6????? is that it critically weakens g6, holding the h7 pawn fixed and screws up the King's knight's development.

    time to buy a new guitar


    Not play stupid moves to justify your opinion. I wrote "preparing Nh6",  not playing it immediately.

    Never heart of the Hippopothamus ? ( or the Krazy Kat, same position but with fianchetting the KB )

    f6-g6-Nh6-Nf7-e6-c6-d6-Be7-Nd7-Nf8-b6

    it's a position, not a move order. And of course only if the opponent's play permits them.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #195

    BirdBrain

    Chris, it was funny the first TWO times someone posted the obvious lines that not one of us would consider playing...but now it is over 10 times. Amazing - the same joke told at least once a page!  Gets a bit dry.  

    I have told people a great gag gift at the chess club for the birthday party would be for the birthday boy to beat everyone in the club by fool's mate just for fun - so it could be done with White or Black!

    For future reference, a joke told over and over and over just isn't funny anymore - it really loses something ;-)

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #196

    trysts

    BirdBrain wrote:

     a joke told over and over and over just isn't funny anymore - it really loses something ;-)


    Yes, I've heard the "platypus waddles into a bar..." joke, a thousand times...Laughing

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #197

    BirdBrain

    Trysts, I don't know that one, so although it would be old for you, I've never heard it :-)

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #198

    trysts

    BirdBrain wrote:

    Trysts, I don't know that one, so although it would be old for you, I've never heard it :-)


    Neither have I, I was just kidding. It sounded like a funny start to a jokeEmbarassed

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #199

    BirdBrain

    This one is okay- 

    A platypus walks into a bar and tells the bartender,"Got any grapes?" The bartender says ,"No, now go away!." The platypus walks int othe bar again and says, "Got any grapes?" The bartender says,"No and if you ask me that one more time I'll staple your webbed feet into the floor!" The platypus walks into the bar again and says,"Do you have any staples?" And the bartender says,"No." Then the platypus says,"Got any grapes?"

    This next one is not too bad - 

    The platypus went into a bar. He bought two sodas.  "That'll be $2.50, please" said the bartender.  "Just put it on my bill" said the platypus.

    Hey, you can find ANYTHING on the Internet!

    http://www.platypus.org.uk/humour01.htm

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #200

    trysts

    BirdBrain wrote:

    This one is okay- 

    A platypus walks into a bar and tells the bartender,"Got any grapes?" The bartender says ,"No, now go away!." The platypus walks int othe bar again and says, "Got any grapes?" The bartender says,"No and if you ask me that one more time I'll staple your webbed feet into the floor!" The platypus walks into the bar again and says,"Do you have any staples?" And the bartender says,"No." Then the platypus says,"Got any grapes?"

    This next one is not too bad - 

    The platypus went into a bar. He bought two sodas.  "That'll be $2.50, please" said the bartender.  "Just put it on my bill" said the platypus.

    Hey, you can find ANYTHING on the Internet!


    Hilarious!Laughing


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