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12th May 2009, 04:39am
#1
by crazylasker
louisiana United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 34

if my opponent play 1. f4 .. what do u recommend i play. thanks.

12th May 2009, 05:02am
#2
by scottk74
Sandwich, IL United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 328

i like Nf6 to keep him from playing e4

12th May 2009, 05:20am
#3
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4250

Offer a draw! :P

12th May 2009, 05:22am
#4
by RyanMK
Iowa United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 2277

e6 hoping for 2.g4!

12th May 2009, 05:27am
#5
by larz_chess
Swalmen Netherlands
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 82

I always play g6. After g6 I always play easy moves like Bg7, Nf6, 0-0, Nc6, e6 and so on.

12th May 2009, 05:34am
#6
by Doctorjosephthomas
Xaimen China
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 272

No one has played 1.f4 against me since 1990

12th May 2009, 05:36am
#7
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 2009

I play 1...d5 and act as if I'm white vs the Dutch...

12th May 2009, 05:41am
#8
by zxb995511
Barcelona Spain
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 744

1.f4......

12th May 2009, 05:51am
#9
by Doctorjosephthomas
Xaimen China
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 272

Why not just wear a sign that says "whip me 'cause I love it!!".  If white is going to play that poorly they shouldn't be allowed out in public.  As I have stated before, real White players have nothing to fear from the From.  Beginners must fear everything however.

12th May 2009, 05:57am
#10
by athalurijagadish
hyderabad India
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 128

black  gave a pawn and went for mate.i feel f4 is played after castling.its a double edged sword.u play too early defence is weakened.use it timely it gets u a win.

12th May 2009, 05:59am
#11
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4945

Well, you certainly can't expect an easy mate, but From's gambit does give black very active piece play and some real positional plusses if accepted. Here is one of my games:

12th May 2009, 05:59am
#12
by Twarter369
FL United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 209

1 f4 d4 Scores -0.20 The idea is to keep white from playing 2.e4 perhaps leaving them with a similar structure to the sicilian (except from whites perspective). Personally I dont like the Bird openingI think it creates a weakess when Short side Castling. The game above illustrates A great H pawn attack further weakening the king side

12th May 2009, 06:23am
#13
by galeb
Dalmatia Croatia
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 20

1.f4 c5

or

1.f4 g6

12th May 2009, 06:33am
#14
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

d5.

12th May 2009, 06:34am
#15
by CM gbidari
US United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 820

The most popular response for black from my experience with da Bird is 1.d5 and an early kingside fianchetto (Bg7). From's Gambit 1.e5 can be pretty dangerous. One slip and you're toast. If you are well prepared for From's, and if you don't mind defending for a bit holding onto a pawn in an unclear position, then you might be okay.

12th May 2009, 06:44am
#16
by Doctorjosephthomas
Xaimen China
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 272

From is not effective at higher levels except as surprise.  That's not much of a plan

12th May 2009, 07:18am
#17
by alec94x
Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1224

I like  Birds Opening I play both sides of the line if you play 1.d5 your playing the Dutch defense a tempo down and if you play 1.e5 in response to Birds then you have to be ready for the strong possibility of facing the Kings Gambit 2.e4 a rich tactical mind field!

12th May 2009, 10:40am
#18
by zxb995511
Barcelona Spain
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 744
athalurijagadish wrote:

black  gave a pawn and went for mate.i feel f4 is played after castling.its a double edged sword.u play too early defence is weakened.use it timely it gets u a win.


I feel that is the only real truth about f4. If it were otherwise grandmasters would play it more often. BTW- does anyone have a grandmaster game(with rated players, meaning at least 1970's) (non-blitz) that 1.f4 was played??

12th May 2009, 10:46am
#19
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3347

Not to totally argue with everything everyone has said in here :P BUT... From's gambit is definitely the most ambitious approach to 1. f4.  I personally use the From's whenever the opportunity presents itself.  The initiative gained for the pawn is consistently enough to get the pawn back with interest (ironically, modern engines, despite being incredibly materialistic, agree with this analysis).

12th May 2009, 10:54am
#20
by ilikeflags
downton abbey England
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 11286
KillaBeez wrote:

Offer a draw! :P


eat cheetos and then DEMAND a draw

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