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After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 Is 3.Nxe5 OK or Bad


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #1

    yeres30

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #2

    LoveYouSoMuch

    no rating cap for this one? i am sure you know the answer :P

    this is a quite widely known line :P

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #3

    Orgnar

    Good, and best if black has no idea what he's doing.  Adequate still if black does know what he's doing, and is only playing this for kicks.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #4

    dervich

    Yeres, you have an impressive rating for making a question of this kind.

    Are you really serious?!...

    It´s a theorical win for white, of course

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damiano_Defence

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #5

    Orgnar

    lol

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #6

    fanny68

    vbhdfgd 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #7

    Scottrf

    dervich wrote:

    Yeres, you have an impressive rating for making a question of this kind.

    Are you really serious?!...

    It´s a theorical win for white, of course

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damiano_Defence

     No, it's only a theoretical win if taken.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #8

    kkbell420

    C40: Latvian and Elephant Gambits.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #9

    yeres30

     

     

    One case where White can go wrong after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5 Qe7 is 4.Qh5+

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #10

    Casual_Joe

    rigamagician wrote:

    Kasparov and Keene in Batsford Chess Opening 2 (1989) give the line 3.Nxe5 Qe7 4.Nf3 d5 5.d3 dxe4 6.dxe4 Qxe4+ 7.Be2 with a slight to clear advantage for White.

    Nice -- I guess his original question was a bit more subtle than we all thought!  We had just assumed that Black would automatically play fxe5.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #11

    Mainline_Novelty

    yeres30 wrote:

     

     

     

    One case where White can go wrong after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5 Qe7 is 4.Qh5+

    I'm not sure whether you wanted the sequence continued or not, but 4...g6! 5.Nxg6 Qxe4+ forks off the Knight.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #12

    sipawitz

    To me it looks bad since you lose the knight...then again I'm no where near your playing level and wouldn't understand

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #13

    Mainline_Novelty

    sipawitz wrote:

    To me it looks bad since you lose the knight...then again I'm no where near your playing level and wouldn't understand

    3...fe?? 4.Qh5+ Ke7 (4...g6 5.Qxe5+ wins the Rook) 5.Qxe5 Kf7 6.Bc4+ d5 (preventing Qf5+ once the King lands on g6) 7. Bxd5+ Kg6 and now, without looking at a board, I think it's 8.Bxb7, deflecting the Bishop from f5, and if 8...Bxb7 9.Qf5+ Kh6 10.d4+ g5, and I think 11.h4!, although I'm confident I mixed up the move order.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #14

    sipawitz

    Thanks you made me understand

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #15

    yeres30

    sipawitz wrote:

    To me it looks bad since you lose the knight...then again I'm no where near your playing level and wouldn't understand

    After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5, White loses the N for an attack.

    And this is where the ability to conduct a relentless King hunt comes in.

    For example, after 3...fxe5 4.Qh5+ Ke7 5.Qxe5+ Kf2 6.Bc4+ d5 7.Bxd5 Kg6 (see position below) conducting an attack on the exposed K is not so easy.  Black's K is exposed giving White a big positional advantage

    For example, 8.h4 h5 9.Qg3+ Kh7 10.Nc3 Nf6 11.Bf7 (Threat: 12.Qg6#) as in the game K. Karal - S. Dogan, Turkey Championship, Kusadasi 2004.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #16

    sipawitz

    Now I'm looking forward to using this...big thanks

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #17

    Gpod

    Yes, Bxb7 would be even an easier victory, because Black can not take due to Qf5


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