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Aggressive Response to 4...Nf6 in the Scotch


  • 3 years ago · #201

    The_Gavinator

    Lol that's funny you'd say that considering you failed your last math and chem quiz. I got the highest non-indian grade in the class on chemistry.

    And here was my schedule yesterday:

    1. Test and Calculator Games

    2. Chess w/ Friends

    3. Movies/Pink Floyd

    4. Movies/Jewish Food

    5. Connect 4/Pink Floyd

    6. Chess/Pink Floyd

    7. Movies/Chess w/ Friends

    8. Movies

    It's actually amazing how Americans arent't the smartest in the world...

  • 3 years ago · #202

    The_Gavinator

    Lol at least I don't fail tests...

  • 3 years ago · #203

    Helzeth

    The_Gavinator wrote:

    Really, cuz in jetfighter's like 10 boards, white had better position in almost all of them.

    and if you tried to refute the sicilian black would be better in every board there, too.

    Does this mean that the sicilian is winning for black?

  • 3 years ago · #204

    Helzeth

    Did you log on wrong account when you wrote that?

    I'm pretty damn convinced that whatupyodog is just gavinator using an engine.

  • 3 years ago · #205

    Helzeth

    In that case I'll give whatup an russian apology.

    Förlåt.

    There you go. I withdraw my accusation

  • 3 years ago · #206

    Helzeth

    I'm not an attacking player but I'd much rather play white if you play 14. rd1. Threat of nd5 is in the air and a bounch of stuff.
    Shrug.

  • 3 years ago · #207

    ChristianSoldier007

    lol i guess the game method cant be used to prove/disprove anything, so why bother? lol

  • 3 years ago · #208

    CHCL

  • 3 years ago · #209

    TonyH

    Its amusing to me to watch certain people mate statements as 1300 players with such passion. It is very typical of teenagers to feel they have figured things out based on their short life experience. The simple fact is that they lack the experience and have for whatever reason are passionately sticking to a belief because they are emotionally committed to it. One of the first things anyone should realize in chess (and life) is that it is ok to be wrong, infact being wrong and making mistakes are essential to improvement but so recognizing your errors and correcting them. 

    Granted at times a new approach is useful but they also have to prove it with results. This is called the scientific method. You make a statement and prove it under certain conditions. Myself, alex and most certainly Pfren could beat jetfighter and gravinator in a game using any first move from either side this doesnt validate the ideas presented by the opening.

    I would recommend anyone but especially Gravinator and Jetfighter to read Chess strategy for club players by grooten. It is one of the best books I have read in a long time and gives a relatively simple and effective way to assess postions . Nothing is perfect but its a great start and the author is a coach that has several strong (IM) level players as a result. ITs not perfect but its very logical in its presentation. 

    Finally the King's gambit is actually VERY positional in its approach. Federov played it quite often as a GM and so did a US senior master rated 2400 (I cannt recall the name) and they played it not so much with an attack in mind but as a positional advantage. The reason you dont see it as often is that it is very double edged. THis means that the likelyhood of a losing result for the white player is higher than in other possible attempts. is this a bad thing? well if your plan is to pay for your rent and eat it could be. The other issue is that because of the wild tactical melee that ensues the tension in the position can  be resolved too quickly and the players end up with nothing to work with. At the amateur level this is usually not the case but as you move up it is. The ability to manage such positions is also 'required' knowledge. While Black has systems that can give it equal chances the task is challenging and more challenging than equalizing in the patzer opening 2. Qh5. And this is where the evidence to support a particular idea in an opening fails, How easily does black equalize? (ie gain equal chances in the middlegame)

  • 3 years ago · #210

    Rubidium

    TonyH wrote:

    Its amusing to me to watch certain people mate statements as 1300 players with such passion. It is very typical of teenagers to feel they have figured things out based on their short life experience. The simple fact is that they lack the experience and have for whatever reason are passionately sticking to a belief because they are emotionally committed to it. One of the first things anyone should realize in chess (and life) is that it is ok to be wrong, infact being wrong and making mistakes are essential to improvement but so recognizing your errors and correcting them. 

    Granted at times a new approach is useful but they also have to prove it with results. This is called the scientific method. You make a statement and prove it under certain conditions. Myself, alex and most certainly Pfren could beat jetfighter and gravinator in a game using any first move from either side this doesnt validate the ideas presented by the opening.

    I would recommend anyone but especially Gravinator and Jetfighter to read Chess strategy for club players by grooten. It is one of the best books I have read in a long time and gives a relatively simple and effective way to assess postions . Nothing is perfect but its a great start and the author is a coach that has several strong (IM) level players as a result. ITs not perfect but its very logical in its presentation. 

    Finally the King's gambit is actually VERY positional in its approach. Federov played it quite often as a GM and so did a US senior master rated 2400 (I cannt recall the name) and they played it not so much with an attack in mind but as a positional advantage. The reason you dont see it as often is that it is very double edged. THis means that the likelyhood of a losing result for the white player is higher than in other possible attempts. is this a bad thing? well if your plan is to pay for your rent and eat it could be. The other issue is that because of the wild tactical melee that ensues the tension in the position can  be resolved too quickly and the players end up with nothing to work with. At the amateur level this is usually not the case but as you move up it is. The ability to manage such positions is also 'required' knowledge. While Black has systems that can give it equal chances the task is challenging and more challenging than equalizing in the patzer opening 2. Qh5. And this is where the evidence to support a particular idea in an opening fails, How easily does black equalize? (ie gain equal chances in the middlegame)

    The best post so far on this forum.

  • 3 years ago · #211

    jetfighter13

    no more respectful, and with more to back it up, honestly I don't have the money for a chess book, because I would probably have a few

  • 3 years ago · #212

    The_Gavinator

    Damn whatupyodog got smoked by a Double Muzio, nice going... I remember I'd showed that to you as a possible blitz weapon and you said it sucks lol...

  • 3 years ago · #213

    CHCL

    The_Gavinator wrote:

    Damn whatupyodog got smoked by a Double Muzio, nice going... I remember I'd showed that to you as a possible blitz weapon and you said it sucks lol...

    LOL

  • 3 years ago · #214

    Rubidium

    whatupyodog2 wrote:

    You won cuz i messed up KG still sucks.

    -1

    Why won't someone admit defeat?

  • 3 years ago · #215

    Pawnpusher3

    jetfighter13 wrote:

    Dumb Russians, h5 seems like a great responce to h4, ever heard of the soltis variation of the Dragon.

    Black looks fine to me

    That line is extremely weak. Black can get into big problems if he isn't extremely careful

  • 3 years ago · #216

    jetfighter13

    yeah we already went over that, I was taking what the position handed me, which was not much, I was trying to give a better line than Gavinators opponent.

  • 3 years ago · #217

    jetfighter13

    Hemingway was good, I loved Old Man and the Sea

  • 3 years ago · #218

    The_Gavinator

    Haha, reading...

  • 3 years ago · #219

    jetfighter13

    dude it was a good book, just like the Hobbit, To Kill a Mockingbird, Farenhiet 451, and uh, Tom Sawyer.

  • 3 years ago · #220

    The_Gavinator

    Yeah I guess you find it fun to read, but all of those books sound like school books, I think it's pointless for us to have to be quizzed on books in school. That's one of the many reasons USA sucks at education... TKAM was pretty good, until I had to take a test on it and it pissed me off to no end.


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