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Actually IM pfren, I am slightly curious of the c3 move by white. 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4.Qf3 Nf6 5.c3!? could you give me some lines for good play by black? Thanks.
If you are interested in the Parham please analyze at a different forum.
We had a forum for that, but that got closed down because you're not allowed to share ideas on this site.
5...Bh6!? followed by Na5 looks strong for Black.
@Gavinator, That is not true. There was to much swearing on that forum.
The recipe against 5.c3 is the same as the one against 5.Ne2 (which is surely enough more sound): 5...Na5!, or 5...Bg7 6.d3 Na5! (it does not make much differene, but since 5.c3 is nondeveloping and colourlsess 5...Bg7 may be more exact- I really don't know, or bother knowing).
The whole opening is rubbish, and that is that.
The move suggested by CHCL (5...Bh6!?) is definitely not something I would consider playing OTB, but on second thoughts it's not bad at at all. It's certainly worth an outing- whenever you find an idiot that plays the Parham, that is...
Lol that is definetly not true. Usually when people have different ideas people tell them they suck and that's it. I tried to be helpful by posting sample games, lines, and also talking about players who have played this, so therefore the thread was closed. There's swearing on this thread, it's not closed, there was a thread a while back where some creepy guy was hitting on a 15 year old girl, that's not closed. Mine just involved a different idea.
You wern't the main reason that it was closed.
I know that. Creativity is.
Creativity- no. Stupidity and endless spamming- yes.
Thank you for those lines, IM. I was just a bit curious (I don't usually play ...e5 anymore). But useful to remember! Thanks!
That's funny, Andrew Martin didn't seem to think it was that stupid. Here's a quote from him "This opening is definetly much better than its reputation".
It's just that everyone on here is so unwilling to look at new ideas, they just immediately say its bad, they won't even look at it, and say "Everyone HAS to use the same thing". There's a word for that, it's called communism.
Some of my closest friends have been communists. None of them ever brought their queens out too early.
Everyone has to use the same thing
A few pros played as black 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6
like Bill Wall.
There are plenty of innovative players. Tony Miles played 1...a6.
It just isn't usually played because it is worse.
No it's usually not played becasue it's overlooked. Look at whatupyodog, he got banned because he did so good with it.
Here is an instructive game by Andrew Martin speaking of him. I think he constructed it. Please no offensive comments towards me, this is all him
But that's not the Parham. The point of it, other than winning rooks, scholar's mates, and kiddie countergambit, is that g6 is a bad move. That's what let's you pin, and let's you win.
but what if h6 is played before the pin?
Oh wait, we are heading into more debate. I'm out, just thought Id show that game that IM Martin did a video on to show why you dont bring your queen out early :P
Continue with whatever you were doing
He also had another video showing how the Parham is overlooked by many of the trolls on here. And yeah you should probably head out, last time you did a move thing it didn't work out so hot for you. h6 is just weak, FYI.
So, 1.e4 Nf6 2.Qh5 Nxh5 with a slight Black advantage puts the Parham into a somewhat dubious state. Case closed.
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