This is a fun opening (dangerous though!)

 What do you think?

the muzio gambit , yes its risky but playable

White scores 57% in this line overall and 54% even when Black is rated >= 2000. That seems like validation that this line is difficult to meet over the board. There are a few others on chess.com who play this line; do some searching to find them.

for an even wilder variation , do a search for double muzio ! :D

I hate gambits! I say stick with positional play. Look what Vladimir Kramnik has done with the Catalan in recent times. He is destroying high quality openings rather easily.

MattHelfst wrote: I hate gambits! I say stick with positional play. Look what Vladimir Kramnik has done with the Catalan in recent times. He is destroying high quality openings rather easily.

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no its not. It's revolutinising the opening world. and there is positinal play in them do some recherch!

 

I remember this opening! I have seen it only a couple times, and it did surprise me with how strong it was. I have not seen it in a long while, but then, I don't respond to 1. e4 with 1...e5 too much anymore. I don't remember exactly how I faired, but it must have been pretty good for me to dismiss it. If white had beat me with it, I know I would have looked everywhere for refutations. Black definitely has to get his pieces out fast!

 

I think we need to point out that white is not down a knight. He is down at most a knight to a pawn, and soon he will win the f4 pawn. If a knight is worth 3 pawns, this would be equal to a standard gambit.

so,what is this opening's purpose really for?

i dont understand about it 

bishop moves to c-5 check. cant block to effectivly so you move your king. then black advances the knight and has advanced pieces also. the key isnt nesicerily the advanced peices but more the queen and rook threat to checkmate in a few moves. its a good opening although you would have to play it right from here on lol otherwise i think you may be a little under the pump.

i am very interested in this gambit does any body have further lines that presses the advantage if so could you post them here it would be very much appreciated.

Can someone define to me what exactly a "gambit" is....it will be so much appreciated..thanks

I think the power is in the surprise. The first time I played this as black, I thought my opponent had blundered by giving away his knight, and I lost horribly.... Now that I'm more prepared I think the chances are more even.

rossyo wrote: Can someone define to me what exactly a "gambit" is....it will be so much appreciated..thanks

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A gambit is when you offer a pawn to your opponent without having the chance to take it back on your very next move. Eg 1.d4 d5 2.c4, Queen's Gambit. Or like here 1.e4 e5 2.f4, King's Gambit. A gambit can be accepted (pawn is taken) or declined (it's left on the board for now). For the why behind a gambit you'd better ask someone who knows a bit more about gambits than I do.... I think one reason can be to make your opponent give up some control over the centre. If the pawn is accepted, the opponents d or e pawn isn't in the centre anymore.

Risk Black!

rossyo wrote: Can someone define to me what exactly a "gambit" is....it will be so much appreciated..thanks

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'Gambit' is a word derived, if I remember rightly, from the Italian word 'gambo' which means to trip your opponent (from wrestling).

In chess, you gambit a pawn or pawns for a lead in development and possibly other advantages such as more space and better pawn structure. The Muzio gambit is the only known (?) sound piece gambit in chess, so can be regarded as unique.

If your opponent accepts the gambit, there are now two scenarios. Some gambits are only temporary and the opponent cannot hold onto the extra material at all with correct play (e.g. queens gambit accepted 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dc). In others, you may not get the material back for some time, maybe not at all (e.g. Benko gambit 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cb a6 5. ba).

In the latter case, we have a true gambit with one side having long term positional and/or development advantages in return for a pawn.  I have seen quoted that a pawn is worth approximately 3 moves in the opening.

This is interesting because of the completely opposite plans of each side. The side with the temporary advantage will attack and try to checkmate or regain material retaining the other advantage(s).  The side with a long term (material) advantage will try to go for an endgame (generally).  of course it isn't quite this simple (it is chess after all) and often you see material being returned in order to equalise.

The whole question of balance between material and positional pluses seems to me to be at the heart of the chess battle and gambits are a way of testing this immediately in the opening.

GoD_LoseR wrote:

so,what is this opening's purpose really for?

i dont understand about it 

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It is an attacking opening...that is realy the whole point...and by the way God is awsome

 

 

 

Double Muzio Masterpiece       

White       Black

1. P-K4        P-K4
2. P-KB4       PxP                      
3. Kt-KB3      P-KKt4
4. B-QB4       P-KKt5
5.  O-O!        PxKt
6. QxP         Q-KB3
7. P-K5!       QxP
8. BxP ch.!!   KxB
9. P-Q4!       QxP ch. 
10. B-K3        Q-KB3
11. Kt-QB3      Kt-K2
12. Kt-Q5       KtxKt
13. QxKt ch.    Q-K3
14. RxP ch.     K-KKt8
15. Q-KKt5 ch.  Q-KKt3
16. RxB ch.!!   KxR
17. R-KB1 ch.   K-K1
18. Q-K5 ch.    0-1

White gives checkmate after either

18.              …Q-K3

19.  QxR ch.     K-K2

20.              Q-KB8#

Or if

17.                                                                                      …K-KKt2

18.                     B-Q4 ch.     K-KKt1

19.                     Q-Q8 ch.     Q-K1

20.    QxQ#

 

This is an opening which I think is quintessential to what chess is all about. You have to be able to sacrifice if you want to win, and in my opinion there is no better opening than this to demonstrate that fact. As I play through this game, it really gets my heart pumping. I like the King's gambit, and whether or not Fischer liked it, I think it's still very playable. And guess why I like this gambit so much? You got it... the Double Muzio! LOL

 

Gambit King

 

P. S.: Sorry for the differences in formatting and I hope you are able to read the moves okay. And I'm not too good at chess (my rating is surely below 1300) so my analysis might be incorrect, and please point out other lines. But remember, we all play for fun, and this opening is one of the funnest.

Everyone knows the Queen's Gambit isn't a real gambit.  If white holds on to the pawn, misery usually becomes White's company.