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1st May 2008, 02:09pm
#1
by chesschamp1020
mid west United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 90

is there anything wrong with this opening? plz everybody answer  would love insight thanks

1st May 2008, 02:28pm
#2
by Beelzebub666
England
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 52

It's a solid opening for white, the scotch game.  Black doing NxN leaves the main line and is a poor move for black since it gives white a big lead in development.

 Better options for black there are nf6 or bc5


1st May 2008, 02:38pm
#3
by redhotman
mejor pais del mundo Argentina
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 191

I start most games like this

Im glad you started this becuase i sometimes get scared i am doing something wrong 

 


1st May 2008, 02:39pm
#4
by chesschamp1020
mid west United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 90
your welcome red I'm also about to start a Sicilian discussion please join
1st May 2008, 02:48pm
#5
by werewolf
tehran Iran
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 79
Beelzebub666 wrote:

It's a solid opening for white, the scotch game.  Black doing NxN leaves the main line and is a poor move for black since it gives white a big lead in development.

 Better options for black there are nf6 or bc5


 The main line is :

4...Nf6  5.Nc3 Bb4  6.Nxc6  Bxc6  7.Bd3 d5!  8.exd5 cxd5  9.0-0 0-0  10.Bg5 Be6  11.Qf3 Be7  12.Rae1 Rb8  13.Nd1 c5

and black is OK...


1st May 2008, 03:12pm
#6
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1081
werewolf wrote: Beelzebub666 wrote:

It's a solid opening for white, the scotch game.  Black doing NxN leaves the main line and is a poor move for black since it gives white a big lead in development.

 Better options for black there are nf6 or bc5


 The main line is :

4...Nf6  5.Nc3 Bb4  6.Nxc6  Bxc6  7.Bd3 d5!  8.exd5 cxd5  9.0-0 0-0  10.Bg5 Be6  11.Qf3 Be7  12.Rae1 Rb8  13.Nd1 c5

and black is OK...


 I think Beelz hit it on the head. The Scotch is a perfectly good opening, used occasionally by Kasparov. 4...Nxd4 is a terrible move, ceding any control of the center that black had, and getting rid of all his developed pieces. I checked various databases, and 4...Nxd4 was easily the worst scoring fourth move for black. chessgames.com

 

4...Nf6 was the old main line, but 4...Bc5 has become more popular.  4...Qh4 is also played, where chances are about the same, but draws are much less common.

 

TO 


2nd May 2008, 01:33pm
#7
by MikedaSnipe
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 589

Black should not play Nxd4, as QxN afterwards is a slight development lead by white since his queen is developed.  Unlike openings like the scandinavian, there are no moves which develop and threaten at the same time for black.


 

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