What do you think is the best chess opening for white and black. This is for move no. 1 not others.

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Birds all the way!!!

for white that's f4

 why would you move to f4. It doesn't do squat for your pieces. It only allows the King to move one square, wow. that's the worst possible move. gosh!!!! :(:(:(:(

wanna prove it?

 

f3 (the Barnes) is the worst opening: it does nothing for development (stops your knight from developing), exposes your king, weakens your kingside, will expose your king after you castle, and makes little to no claim for the center.  f4 is strong, and grips at the center... far from the worst.

Chess_Champion26 wrote:

 What do you think is the best chess opening for white and black. This is for move no. 1 not others.

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I’m sure you will get many different responses on what is the best so I’ll just mention the opening that’s best for me. As White I love to play e4. With the Black pieces, I like to play the classical 1. e4 e5 and 1. d4 d5

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Eric, with all the whining you got to make this thing, you should be [nicely] slapping it into peoples' faces lol.

King pawn.That's my only no.1 move

i always tried c4 most of the time and find good results. it leads to queens pawn or the gambit and can possibly lead to a slav on the defense, very interesting, it depends on the blacks replies.  f4,, whooo no way i will make that.. thats ridiculous...

i agree with f4 not good . i have never seen that used ,anythings possible i guess.i like queens gambit accepted or declined. but black doesn't always let me play that opening.

AnthonyCG wrote: erik wrote: www.chess.com/explorer ?

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  Eric, with all the whining you got to make this thing, you should be [nicely] slapping it into peoples' faces lol.

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 yeah. it will go fullly live next week.

I see people don't agree with the birds. If anyone wants to see why I play it your welcome to challenge me.

hillbillyboy wrote: i agree with f4 not good . i have never seen that used ,anythings possible i guess.i like queens gambit accepted or declined. but black doesn't always let me play that opening.

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Bird is a sound opening, for the following reasons:

I)

1.f4 attacks a central square, and later white wishesd to gain space on the kingside.

II)

1.f4 cannot be refuted directly. First, after the Grob gambit 1. f4 e5, 2. fe d6 3. ed Black does not have the advantage (black actually needs to prove that he has enough compensation. The theory is rather in favour of white here!). And second, white can play 1.f4 e5, 2.e4, King's gambit, which is a sound opening, too.  

    Personally, I believe that white does not possess a winning strategy in chess, Therefore all first moves which do not lose, are theoretically equal.

Moreover, from the practical point of view, 1. f4 is not worse , (even not more "passive" !) than many other well-established moves, such as 1. b3, 1. g3, 1. c4, 1. Nc3.

The reason why it is not so often played by Masters is simply the fashion, and the fact that guy's like Kasparov have not put it into their repertoire (most of us believe too much in authorities, and even imitate the "great predecessors"). 

Notice that Aljechin, Botwinnik, Bronstein, and many others, even Kramnik  played with much success the Dutch 1. d4 f5, which is very close to the Bird, in its concept. 

The best opening is... the starting positions for both sides. Every move you make will leave weaknesses. But it's true that if your opponent cannot take advantage of it, it is not 'yet' a 'weakness', so to speak.

Blue_Storm1989 wrote: The best opening is... the starting positions for both sides. Every move you make will leave weaknesses. But it's true that if your opponent cannot take advantage of it, it is not 'yet' a 'weakness', so to speak.

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I presume this is a bonmot. ...

Even if the opponent could , objectively, take advantage of the new weakness(es), you are a half move ahead , and losing time can be seen as a weakness (this time,  in black's position!), too.   The question is, as always in chess, how you compensate the weaknesses in your own position, with the weaknesses in the position of your opponent.

Its upto who is my opponant.. first few round it could be even g3 or b3 but last few rounds it will be e4 to d4.

Fischer said e4 was "best by test", but d4 and c4 are both equally good and it all depends on your playing style.

mandelshtam wrote: hillbillyboy wrote: i agree with f4 not good . i have never seen that used ,anythings possible i guess.i like queens gambit accepted or declined. but black doesn't always let me play that opening.

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Bird is a sound opening, for the following reasons:

I)

1.f4 attacks a central square, and later white wishesd to gain space on the kingside.

II)

1.f4 cannot be refuted directly. First, after the Grob gambit 1. f4 e5, 2. fe d6 3. ed Black does not have the advantage (black actually needs to prove that he has enough compensation. The theory is rather in favour of white here!). And second, white can play 1.f4 e5, 2.e4, King's gambit, which is a sound opening, too.  

    Personally, I believe that white does not possess a winning strategy in chess, Therefore all first moves which do not lose, are theoretically equal.

Moreover, from the practical point of view, 1. f4 is not worse , (even not more "passive" !) than many other well-established moves, such as 1. b3, 1. g3, 1. c4, 1. Nc3.

The reason why it is not so often played by Masters is simply the fashion, and the fact that guy's like Kasparov have not put it into their repertoire (most of us believe too much in authorities, and even imitate the "great predecessors"). 

Notice that Aljechin, Botwinnik, Bronstein, and many others, even Kramnik  played with much success the Dutch 1. d4 f5, which is very close to the Bird, in its concept. 

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The f4 opening also allows you to draw your knight out without comprimising the pawns attacking ability, most of the time those pawns are used to defend but in this case they gain space, but also lose tempo. I have won at least one game using this but I dont stick to it, there are just too many other options to go with. Use the kings pawn it opens your key bishop and queen at the same time, just be sure to develop your pieces and you should be able to set up good attacking and defensive measures.