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27th February 2008, 03:33pm
#1
by KillaBeez
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 578

The Budapest Gambit is a great weapon for counterattackers and immediately strikes back in the center.  It is full of traps and is a strong tool to induce a serious structural weakness for White.  Here are the most common played variations.  What do you think?


27th February 2008, 03:43pm
#2
by ThePadre
Lossiemouth Scotland
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2
I been trying to find an opening against d4 that suits me, but aint found to much yet, i aint played in years until january and i been struggling to find stuff i like for black against it...this looks interesting enuf, what ideas come out when the gambit is declined though?..i don't really got the resources to go analysing openings etc at the moment, not in a club etc
27th February 2008, 03:49pm
#3
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 665

It's okay for both sides... I am never in a situation to play it being as I am neither a d4 player nor a Nf6. 

I won't say much more without some research. 


27th February 2008, 04:02pm
#4
by KillaBeez
United States
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Normally, in d4 openings, Black has a very cramped game.  The pawn on e5 is very agressively posted and insures Black greater piece activity if the gambit is declined.  There are gobs of information about this opening on Wikipedia.  (The article is reliable)


28th February 2008, 02:17pm
#5
by BasicLvrCH8r
Burlington, VT United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 817
This would be a good opening to play against a person who uses space much to his advantage. After 2... e6, white can move one of his knights to further attack the center, and black has little space. This is a very good counterattack.
29th February 2008, 06:28am
#6
by Graw81
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 767
I totally agree with you Killabeez. I have been playing the budapest as black for a long time now. Its a really great opening in my opinion and can catch white off guard. By the way it should be noted that 4.Bf4 not only played to defend the pawn but placed on f4 the bishop is not hemmed in by the pawn on e3 as in the  4.Nf3 line. I love using the rook lift idea ...a5, ...Ra6 where black can spring an attack from nowhere on the white king or settle to double rooks along the e file. Black has a nice game in the budapest if it suits black players style. If white avoids the mainlines of the budapest, for example white plays the early queen lines, white is simply playing into blacks hands! Usually budapest players know what they are doing (as opposed to 'whacky gambit' players), so i would say beware.
29th February 2008, 06:43am
#7
by God2
Malaysia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1024
nice opening
29th February 2008, 04:29pm
#8
by BasicLvrCH8r
Burlington, VT United States
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Member Points: 817

This is a fun variation of the Budapest where white has no clue what he's doing.


29th February 2008, 04:42pm
#9
by addiction_to_chess
Metro Manila Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 80

I'd rather prefer the caro-kahn defence but I'll give this a shot.

 

 


1st March 2008, 04:07am
#10
by KillaBeez
United States
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Member Points: 578
addiction_to_chess wrote:

I'd rather prefer the caro-kahn defence but I'll give this a shot.

 

 


This opening is probably not a walk in the park for you if you like the Caro-Kann.  These positions are mainly for attacking players who get more active pieces as a result of their e5 break in one thrust.


1st March 2008, 05:20am
#11
by Graw81
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 767

The line given by BasicLvrCH8r is opening theory until whites 8th move, which in fact is a total blunder, there should be more '?'`s attached to this move! Every budapest player has got quick wins even games that have been exactly the line given by BasicLvrCH8r. Here another line which i love to see white play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is another line budapest players should know i guess.


1st March 2008, 05:28am
#12
by KillaBeez
United States
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Member Points: 578
You left out a move in your first example.  Be5 doesn't trap the Queen, but after Qg5 Qxg5 Bxg5 Bxb2, White will lose a rook.
1st March 2008, 05:39am
#13
by Graw81
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 767

KillaBeez wrote: You left out a move in your first example.  Be5 doesn't trap the Queen, but after Qg5 Qxg5 Bxg5 Bxb2, White will lose a rook.

 Woops, thanks for pointing that out! I shouldnt be chatting and posting critical lines for the good of the people of chess.com only to confuse them. Wink


1st March 2008, 09:31am
#14
by EnGliSHCheSsPlAy
Italy Italy
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 221

I dont like gambitsLaughing


1st March 2008, 05:38pm
#15
by KillaBeez
United States
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Member Points: 578
EnGliSHCheSsPlAy wrote:

I dont like gambits


Technically, this is not really a gambit as Black will get the pawn back in most variations.  Most attempts to hold onto the pawn fall flat on their face positionally.  With the Budapest, you get dynamic as well as static advantages for your investment.


1st March 2008, 06:12pm
#16
by benws
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 893

ok, stop suggesting that this is the best opening ever. because it's not. consider the following game. it tells you that every opening has it's drawbacks.


1st March 2008, 06:27pm
#17
by BasicLvrCH8r
Burlington, VT United States
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Member Points: 817
Why not 15...Nxg5? Unless I am missing something major (which is not uncommon), it would be nice if you didn't show games where people hang pieces and they are not taken in order to show a weakness to an opening.
2nd March 2008, 04:13am
#18
by Graw81
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 767
hmmm... i thought the line for black against 4.e4 was 4...Nxe5 5.f4 and then there are two lines either 5...N(e)c6 and 5...Ng6. The 5...N(e)c6 line is fine for black imo. In what year was this game played benws?! if its old game which i think it is, then it was time before present theory understanding. I just think its not a good line to use for black.
2nd March 2008, 04:46am
#19
by KillaBeez
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 578
The guy playing Black didn't even play it right.  And the guy didn't lose because of his opening choice.
2nd March 2008, 09:04am
#20
by funnyrook13
mississippi United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 12
WHAT IF AFTER 3.......NG4 THEY PLAYED 4 F3
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