That on those rare occasions when the Budapest is played at the highest level and white moves 4.Bf4 he always opts for the Nd2 move rather than Nc3.
That was Karpov's choice when Short sprang the Budapest on him in their Candidates match in 1992.
Of course, this thread is about the Nc3 line, I know
I don't think mandelshtam is still around.
He is but has another account named achmatova. he doesn't use mandelshtam anymore for some reason.
I go thru phases with openings. At the time of the game, I was pretty confident that Black could draw the ending and put pressure because of the crippled pawns. But as the game progressed, I realized that White just has the pawn and that the doubled pawns are not as bad as they seem. And I resigned because I was down a pawn for no comp and I had too many games going. So I gave up the Budapest and learned the KID and Benoni. Hope you learned something from my game though.
Well, if you saw my earlier comments, you did have some excellent drawing chances if you had stuck to better theory. Ne6 (book, in the line you played was solid) instead of Na5 and also 0-0 is stronger than Ne4 at that point. The inaccurate Na5 move you made really put the game from +/= to white +-
Below in diagram is the best line for Black in the Nc3 line, and it is hard for white to win, but emminently doable, just tough.
After move Re8, white is +/=, not +/- and there is clearly no forced win here for white. Plenty of chances for Black to even outplay White if she is the stronger player.
After 11. ...0-0 (instead of Ne4) 12. Bg2 Re8 we get the following position, White to move.
I just started using the Budapest as my "go-to" answer for the queen's pawn, since I've had really bad luck with anything else. Of course, the Budapest is not without its foibles... Does anyone have a reliable defense that they like better?
You can't really go wrong with the Slav.
killabeez, mendelshtam closed that account because he had been using an engine for analysis at some point, he assumed it was legal as in ICCF. When he discovered he was wrong he closed tnhat account and opened the new one you refer to. I recall he only gotten the engine recently at the time.
How come his profile doesn't say the account is closed?
http://www.chess.com/echess/profile/mandelshtam
Does he have two live accounts? Can you do that?
I think he voluntarily stopped using that account. I think the staff was willing to let him keep it.
So much honesty ... really, touching :)
Do not open any doors, lest a pile of skeletons fall onto you.
Or you might find an elephant.
And, Hannibal used elephants to conquer Rome and yet all roads still seem to end there.
Even one started in Budapest.
If white puts his knight at d2 instead then black has that smothered mate knight check to hope for, using the pin on the d pawn, but people rarely are willing to give you that, y'know?
I just looked at the Karpov games. The one against Short was interesting. Either Karpov was in time trouble or he was "happy with a draw" in the match sense.
I didn't realize that a3 didn't need to be played!
Karpov did play a3, of course -- he just waited until move 12. At move 7 e3 is actually a little more popular than a3 (1218 games to 903)in my database and scores better.
Short probably should have taken the offer to trade queens on move 19. You do get the feeling Karpov would have been happy with a draw, but he was very quick to pounce when Short slipped.
Even at that, Short wasn't really out of it until 39 ...Re4??
Here's the game if anyone else is interested (apologies to those who aren't )
Wait, this was round 1?!
Karpov should NOT have been happy with a draw in that case.
It was the first game of their match. So from a match standpoint I guess Karpov should certainly have been playing for a win.
It's just that when you play through the game it seems like Karpov is just content to keep returning the ball - he doesn't seem to be playing all out. Offering the exchange of queens for example. What did he really have after 19 ...Qxe5 20 Bxe5 ?
Of course a lot of times it seems like Karpov isn't doing anything much and then you realize that the game is positionally won without Karpov's opponant ever making an obviously bad move. So maybe he had some plan against those pawns on the c-file.
Or maybe since it was the first game of the match and Short doubtless caught him by surprise he was just being very cautious? I can't imagine that Karpov was expecting the Budapest
I sent a message to a chess.com member from Budapest basically asking "what's up with your defence, homey?" So far no response. This goes to support the theory that the Budapest Defence is a sham they put on for tourists.
They might respond better if you translate it into Budapestian.
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