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c4 as white: genius or mistake


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #21

    koala8

    ok here are some main lines

    this is known as the english opening main lines

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #22

    TeraHammer

    jrzmath99 wrote:
    TeraHammer wrote:

    It is good against polish people.

    why?

    It is a counter to the Polish defense: 1...b5 ;)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #23

    jphillips

    I play it like a hyper accelerated dragon sicilian.



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #24

    pellik

    koala8 wrote:

    c4 as white I think is a mistake because it doesn't give as much central control

    I usually play 1. Nf3 and 2. c4 to reach an english, not having a taste for c4 e5. By far the most common continuation I encounter is to transpose into the Maroczy bind. I don't think white is lacking in center control there at all.



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #25

    bronsteinitz

    I agree. Over here C4 is abbreviation for a dismissal. Like yesterday john got his C4.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #26

    AndyClifton

    koala8 wrote:

    I'll research main lines with c4 and show them

    Ah, I was hoping for that.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #27

    AndyClifton

    koala8 wrote:

    this is known as the english opening main lines

    This is known as mislabeling (looks like you've got a little more research to do). Wink

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #28

    koala8

    AndyClifton wrote:
    koala8 wrote:

    this is known as the english opening main lines

    This is known as mislabeling (looks like you've got a little more research to do). 


    main lines in master games

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #29

    AndyClifton

    Sure looks like the Queen's Gambit to me... Smile

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #30

    finalunpurez

    koala8 wrote:

    ok here are some main lines

     

    this is known as the english opening main lines

    Wait a minute! That is definitely Queen's gambit!

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #31

    aAquila

    koala8 wrote:
    AndyClifton wrote:
    koala8 wrote:

    this is known as the english opening main lines

    This is known as mislabeling (looks like you've got a little more research to do). 


    main lines in master games

    You got d4 c4 pawns with different move order... and " 1 c4 Nf3 2 d4  " has as many continuation as an india opening..

    Opening usually means the position you reach but not the move order you make.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #32

    StrategicPlay

    No opening is a mistake if you know how to play with it to your advantage. 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #33

    AndyClifton

    Of course, some may be more advantageous than others...

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #34

    CBA

    I do love the idea the the first move can be genius. It's hard enough finding one that is, without argument, a mistake...

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #35

    transpo

    1.c4 is the best kept anti-sicilian secret in chess.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #36

    neo-metacrash

    A neat opening trap in the English.
     
  • 23 months ago · Quote · #37

    AndyClifton

    transpo wrote:

    1.c4 is the best kept anti-sicilian secret in chess.

    Kind of an "if you can't beat em, join em" solution.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #38

    nameno1had

    For me this has usually been a mistake in the past because, I am not enough of an aggressive attacker( it is too slow for development and castling, for my style), but I would say it was genius for Fischer...

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #39

    DutchBagel

    yeah koala im quite familiar with that opening

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #40

    blueemu

    Here's another neat opening trap in the English:




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