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Caro-kann vs French Defense


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #82

    FirebrandX

    About the only line that annoys me right from the start is an offbeat line that white can play from a KIA formation, but then immediately playing d4 as follows:

     

    It throws away any pretense of an advantage for white, but I've had strong masters play it against me in blitz with the idea of just outplaying me in a more open position that avoids all the theory of the advance variation. In a way, the idea by white is very Carlsen-esk. I hate it because I can't rely on the usual theory and/or structures I'm used to, and of course my opponent is a very strong player that did it for exactly that reason.



  • 20 months ago · Quote · #83

    madhacker

    Estragon wrote:

    Carlsen is truly impressive, but the eschewing of deep theory also fits very well with his style of finding sound plans in seemingly quiet positions.  The point in a game where many GMs are beginning to think draw, Carlsen is just starting to play.

    Carlsen gets away with playing like this because he is a genius. Normal people should at least try for some opening advantage with white, otherwise they won't win many games.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #84

    Elubas

    Or you could just strive to play like a genius in every other phase of the game Smile

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #86

    ThrillerFan

    madhacker wrote:
    Estragon wrote:

    Carlsen is truly impressive, but the eschewing of deep theory also fits very well with his style of finding sound plans in seemingly quiet positions.  The point in a game where many GMs are beginning to think draw, Carlsen is just starting to play.

    Carlsen gets away with playing like this because he is a genius. Normal people should at least try for some opening advantage with white, otherwise they won't win many games.

    Uhm, Quiet and Opening Advantage are not Opposite or Mutually Exclusive.  You can have a quiet position with a huge advantage.  Instead of a stripped King for your opponent, you have better pawns, more space, better development, the better piece (i.e. Knight vs his Bishop in a locked position), etc.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #87

    GiorgiVanDerway

    coneheadzombie wrote:
    GiorgiVanDerway wrote:

    The french has alot of theory to it I would recommend the caro-kann i play that i also know the french. the car-kann is a legit opening and easy to play! Against d4 just play the king's indian defense not much theory on it and its a very solid defense also if your feeling up to iit look at the grunfeld i play that against d4 and its usually an exciting game! hope this helps!

    Are you kidding? THe KID is almost as theory-full as the Sicilian (well, not nearly as full, but you get my meaning)!

    I would imagine KID(i dont play the KID) is similar to KIA and neither have much theory to them. When i play e4 i like the ruy lopez but if he pulls a french or sicilian you can play KIA to either and there is not much theory to it!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #89

    GiorgiVanDerway

    Really? my misake i knw theres a few line to it but i dont play it. if someone plays it im a strong beliver of the averbach variation

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #91

    FirebrandX

    I remember Kasparov's love-hate relationship with the KID. First he loved it, then he hated it.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #92

    Jeevason

    Don't get me wrong, but what is KID?

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #93

    Traumschloss

    King's Indian Defense.......KID.  An aggressive defense by Black against 1. d4....     When I play against it as white,  I play  3. g3 variation.   The theory is the most KID players are very aggressive and this forces a more positional approach that aggressive players often find annoying.

       References to KIA....or King's Indian Attack refer to a white system that essentially results in white playing the King's indian defense a tempo up. I run into most frequently when I play the French.

    A Fischer favorite in his early years.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #94

    Elubas

    Yep, I also play the fianchetto, although I play 2 c4, 3 Nf3, then 4 g3.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #95

    Jeevason

    Traumschloss wrote:

    King's Indian Defense.......KID.  An aggressive defense by Black against 1. d4....     When I play against it as white,  I play  3. g3 variation.   The theory is the most KID players are very aggressive and this forces a more positional approach that aggressive players often find annoying.

       References to KIA....or King's Indian Attack refer to a white system that essentially results in white playing the King's indian defense a tempo up. I run into most frequently when I play the French.

    A Fischer favorite in his early years.

    Thanks

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #96

    deankellam

    Both the French and Caro Kann allow White time to play d4. If you know your better than your opponent. then letting them establish d4 early is okay because in most lines you will be undermining there center, putting White on the defense. In playing both the French and Caro Kann be prepared for the advance variations because that's what your asking for though playable not my favorite postion to be in. You're much better off playing e5 or c5. Sure it's what they will be excepting, but the threat of d4 is real and has to be addressed in a timely fashion. If your worried about your opponents preparation, don't be, a single move can place him out of book. So what's better the French or Carro Kann, well they both allow d4; if your okay with that then I would go with the French just having the threat of c5. The French is more flexible. As for d4 defenses I play Nf6 e6 d5

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #97

    nffc11

    Caro kann

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #98

    Prosecutor153

    Caro-Kann would win


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