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Change to 1.d4. what do I need to know?


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #1

    conman1000

    Hi all, I'm considering a change to 1.d4 and need to find out the key details behind it.

    I'm rated around 1400 online, and have been a 1.e4 player all of my short 14 years. I played 1.d4 for fun against a lower rated player, beat him badly, and in the King's Indian tournament, I've got a 3/4 so far and winning position in just about every one of the other games.

    Is there anything special I need to know? Openings to try and avoid, maybe openings to play?

    Thanks for your help and time.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #2

    Conquistador

    Well, 1.e4 and 1.d4 are two very different ways to open.

    Generally 1.e4 involves more tactical concepts.

    Generally 1.d4 involves more positional concepts.

    I think your change of heart in openings is a little premature.  You need to play more games with 1.d4 to get a feel for the opening an the variations.  What variations were you playing with 1.e4?

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #3

    Bur_Oak

    Look into Queen's Gambit lines, but be aware of the plethora of defenses devised to counteract this important opening. The Torre Attack can be fun, as well. Have fun. A lot of d4 lines are fun to play, and they will often intimidate lower rated players.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #4

    conman1000

    Conquiscador wrote:

    Well, 1.e4 and 1.d4 are two very different ways to open.

    Generally 1.e4 involves more tactical concepts.

    Generally 1.d4 involves more positional concepts.

    I think your change of heart in openings is a little premature.  You need to play more games with 1.d4 to get a feel for the opening an the variations.  What variations were you playing with 1.e4?


    I normally always play an italian game, and sometimes I might play the Ruy Lopez.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #5

    Conquistador

    well, since you play the ruy lopez you might adjust well to the 1.d4.  The thing is that you need to really develop your middlegame skills as most 1.d4 games are decided in the middlegame.  The Italian is a very different game than 1.d4 because it is a fight out of the opening.  The middlegame is inportant there as well, but you need to know the opening to have a good position.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #8

    ghostofmaroczy

    I have had the same experince as Reb:  most players have less prepared for defense against 1 d4.  Just a note: you can cut down on some of the theory by playing the Catalan.  That can help you avoid the Nimzo, the QI and the QGD.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #10

    rich

    Well I play 1.d4 on a regular basis, I would normally play the Trompowsky Attack if my opponent responds with Nf6, if my opponent plays the french defence I play e4.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #11

    AnthonyCG

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

    Years ago I decided I didn't want to learn about the Benko Gambit, so I play 3.Nf3 after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5


    That's an English I think. I hate that. :D
  • 5 years ago · Quote · #12

    tineslabbinck

    You certainly have to learn how to win the pawn back in the Queen's Gambit Accepted. Many players bring themselves in big trouble when they're trying to defend that pawn.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #13

    chesspro8

    i actually want the excactly oppositeTongue out...i suggest you to buy a book about the kings indian defence which i find pretty annoying!other than that i agree with most comments

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #14

    MeatyOwlLegs33

    Look into the Queens gambit. Also watch out for the Gruenfield 1. d4,Nf6 2.c4,g6 3.Nc3,d5

     

    Kingdoogie

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #15

    chessman_calum

    gruenfeld is fun (Y)

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #16

    kingsmate618

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  • 5 years ago · Quote · #17

    chessman_calum

    and also, look at the recent rapidplay between karpov and kasparov..

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #18

    alex_b

    I suggest buying chris wards book, how to play the queens gambit. Ward is a strong grandmaster who loves playing the QGD Exchange Variation, which he reccomend in the book. I have learnt so much from the book and when i switched from e4 to d4 it was this book that helped me do it. I feel much more comfortable playing white now!

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #19

    Spiffe

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

    Years ago I decided I didn't want to learn about the Benko Gambit, so I play 3.Nf3 after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5


    I favor 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.Qc2 -- a Benko declined that's easy to understand.  See my profile for an example game.  Besides, it's fun to play against the regular Benoni, you don't want to be missing out on that!

    I've played both e4 & d4.  The biggest difference is that, for the most part, d4 games are not as tactically sharp as e4.  Move order is not as critical; it's more about identifying a deployment strategy that flows into a cohesive middlegame plan.

    However, probably because of that, you'll encounter a LOT more transposition than you're accustomed to.  Nf3 THEN d4 is a common move order.  After Nf6-e6, I count 8 different common named systems that you can easily get to (QGD Orthodox, Semi-Slav, QGA, Nimzo, Bogo, Queen's Indian, Catalan, Benoni).  One of my opponents recently surprised me with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 (Orthodox QGD) 3.Nc3 c6 (now a Semi-Slav) 4.e3 Bd6 5.Nf3 f5 (now a Dutch Stonewall!).

    So needless to say, you need to be prepared for a number of different defenses.  Even aside from the transpositional tricks, you'll see a lot more variety in what you encounter.  With e4, you probably see like 40% e5, 40% Sicilian, maybe 10% French, and 10% misc.  With d4, you'll very commonly meet QGA, QGD, Slav, e6 Indians, KID; maybe Grunfeld at a higher rating level.

    Enjoy playing around with it, though.  If you've been playing e4 for 14 years, it'll probably be good for you to get some experience in a different style of game.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #20

    Cogwheel

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    right um..

     

    I had a game and i hit x! DANG IT TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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