I still run into this line from time to time
Nice trap, but I don't understand the move 7...Qd7. It doesn't make sense because it allows white to take the b7 pawn. 7...Qe8 is a better move I think.
I still run into this line from time to time
Nice trap, but I don't understand the move 7...Qd7. It doesn't make sense because it allows white to take the b7 pawn. 7...Qe8 is a better move I think.
ruben72d wrote: it's pretty easy
CJ_P wrote:
Levon31 wrote:
You said "I think it's the fastest way to win against the Philidor." It isn't. Is that difficult to understand?
And experience players won't play 3...Bg4 in that position.
God damn, you're arrogant. IM Greg Shahade had a master play Bg4 against him on his youtube channel. Greg responded something to the effect of "really isn't this the Morphy game?!" He then went on to lose the game. Bg4 isn't *so* bad; Bxf3 is the bad move.
An inexperienced player learned a new move order trick and used it against another inexperienced player. Good for him.
Bg4 is a horrendous move. It accomplishes nothing: after 4.dxe5 black has nothing better than to trade away the LS bishop and give his opponent the bishop pair in an open position. If he does not trade he simply loses a pawn with no compensation. Furthermore: if the trade is not made than what was the point of Bg4 anyway? It's simply a lost tempo in an already passive position. That someone won a game in a blitz game means absolutely nothing. And if you don't mind me asking: can you provide the link to the game, as I am interested in how an IM manages to screw up such a position.
Here's a recent game of me getting completely smashed playing the Philidor!
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 Nbd7 5.g4 Nxg4 6.Rg1 Ngf6 7.Bc4 h6 8.Be3 c6 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Qd3 Nh5? { I try to play not using books, databases etc. in my turn based games to force me to remember some theory, clearly I messed up my lines here, ..b5 is the move had I did such research, } 11.O-O-O Qf6? 12.Nb5! { Completely not expecting this, the rest goes downhill quickly } 12...cxb5 13.Bxb5 Qd8 14.Nxe5 Nhf6 15.Nxf7 Kxf7 16.e5 Qa5 17.exf6 Ne5 18.Bc4+ Kxf6 19.Qe4 Bf5 20.Qh4+
1-0
If g5... Bxg5+ hxg5 Qxb5#
Tactics trainer time! :D... I guess you didn't see this. g5 is forced because black is in a mating net. I don't know if you where trying to say you creamed your opponent or you thought you where losing at this point, but clearly you where winning with a forced mate. This is an interesting opening that I might try someday. The open file for the rook really helped there.
I know the philidor is a tough opening to learn because of all the opening traps you have to look out for when playing it, but I would like to say that the OP's post, for me, is a little enlightening. I normally try for a Legal mate type attacking chance by developing both knights and my bishop to c4 before I do the d4 pawn push, but often times my opponent doesn't blunder like that. I know this new way only works if the opponent does a bad move, but at least this is something different. I now I have two more openings to study, because I encounter the philidor a lot. I have a book on it, however, it is from the black perspective. I'm not interested in playing the Philidor at this time as black but someday I will dust the cobwebs from that book and look it over. It's a pretty big book to, only on one opening!
In short, good post, this gives me something else to try, but the philidor is actually a good opening for black, if you are aware of the traps and now the contents of the book I have...
ofcourse it is not a blunder