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d4 c6!?

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10th February 2009, 01:10am
#1
by Vonzi
Switzerland
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 95

Is it possible after d4 to play c6 and go into the caro-kann or the slav defence?

or is there an other option for white which makes c6 bad?

10th February 2009, 01:15am
#2
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 2009

Well, if you play 1...d5 and 2...c6, White doesn't have the option of going into the Caro-Kann. Perhaps there is some line after 1.d4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 where ...c6 is a bit more passive than you would normally play, but I can't see one right now.

I think it's ok, but don't see why you would prefer it over 1...d5, giving White fewer options.

10th February 2009, 01:17am
#3
by likesforests
United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 4407

If you know both the Slav and the Caro but are more comfortable playing the Caro then perhaps this makes sense, since it might tempt White to transpose. I don't see anything better for White than to enter one of those two lines.

11th March 2010, 12:58am
#4
by Tnk64ChessCourse
Melbourne Australia
Member Since: Dec 2009
Member Points: 183

I know I'm resurrecting a very dated thread, but I think that 2.e3 moving into a stonewall setup where c6 is not a very helpful move, might be strong against 1..c6

11th March 2010, 05:39am
#5
by FirebrandX
Denton, TX United States
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 780

2. e3 isn't fully intending a stonewall just yet, and still can be a transposing move into a c4-d4-e3 formation against the triangle c6-d5-e6 formation. So with that in mind, there's nothing wrong with c6 even against 2. e3.

11th March 2010, 06:05am
#6
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 934

Most 1.  d4 players aren't going to play 2. e4 against 1. c6 or e6.  Most will probably play either 2. c4 or Nf3.  The only advantage I see to 1. ... c6 is you avoid the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit if that bothers you.  If White plays some other system, say 2. Nc3... you have limited your responses.  At the club level someone might try 2. d5 to screw with your mind but the move itself shouldn't be a problem.

12th March 2010, 12:32am
#7
by Tnk64ChessCourse
Melbourne Australia
Member Since: Dec 2009
Member Points: 183
FirebrandX wrote:

2. e3 isn't fully intending a stonewall just yet, and still can be a transposing move into a c4-d4-e3 formation against the triangle c6-d5-e6 formation. So with that in mind, there's nothing wrong with c6 even against 2. e3.


But who said that white has to play c4? He can still play a stonewall.

12th March 2010, 12:42am
#8
by airbus
Uskedalen Norway
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 3905

If you are a beginner, or have a reason for not exploring chess openings, 1...c6 could pretty much be your only move, for "any" white first move... I would not recommend it though, as in my opinion there are better moves in most openings.

 

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