Why why why!! I can't play against this even people with lower ratings crush me, I tried the samisch and the four pawns attack, and I have had horrible results with them both(Four pawn attack I have a bit better results but still horrible). Could someone tell me how to play against this?

And also I Have troubles with almost all finachetto openings, what is the proper way to play against a finachetto opening?

Pick up the Classical and aim for the Korchnoi variation.  Another solution id to take-up the seemingly innocuous exchange variation.  While not affording white a real advantage, black strategies do not so much revolve around mating the white king as they must shift to a more positional approach.

Good luck!

Thanks for the advice

I'm not going to touch the Fianchetto stuff, but considering I've opened with e4 maybe twice online, I see the KID often enough to have formed some decent ideas about it. If you don't like the six pawns attack then might I suggest http://www.chess.com/explorer/index.html?id=36892&ply=5&black=0. If black plays e6 you transpose to the Catalan which is a different beast all together.

In any case, this was the first game I could find where you play against a normal King's Indian setup so I tried to give feedback on your moves, overall it just feels passive.

The problem is that the 3 main Fianchetto systems are all vastly different. I've got some experience in all of them so I'll try to help.

• Benoni. Black starts with the Fianchetto and c5 and if you want to mantain your d pawn your forced to play it to d5. From here  black is playing for b5 while white wants to play e5, so play a4 to slow black down and push forward with you e and f pawns. if you are worried about the Fianchetto you could dismantle it with a Queen and Bishop battery into h6. That usually works for me . Black's main threat are b5, Re8 targetting e4 and bringing the Bishop into d4 with check against 0-0.
• Grunfeld. Black starts with the Fianchetto and d5. If you want an advantage you really have to play the exchange and gain the centre as Eniamar said. In this case Black is threatening to dismantle your centre and attack the rook on a1 so move it and try to force forward your d-pawn which is usually lethal to black.
• KID. Black starts with the Fianchetto and d6, e5. You have to quicky attack the queenside here as black will try to move towards the Kingside and mate you. I recommend playing d5 and then trying to open the centre with c5. if the centre opens Black's King is vulnerable along the Diagonal.

i agree with the e3 being weak I have played that variation of the grunfeld I was just looking at that the other knight.

B3...i know it is really passive but an expert at my club said it was sound...so I trusted him, but I'm not sure now...

Thanks for that info Enimar and that immediate fianchetto variation looks interesting!

Thank you OMG do you have any more info about other finachetto systems like sicilian dragon, catalan, etc...

i thought the same thing of the sicilian some time ago, and played the alapin even though i didn't like it very much, but now i am going back to playing the open sicilian without any feer of being out played.

I tend to follow Gonnosuke's advice and go for early e6 and a6 to limit the activity of the white bishop in the sicilian.

Sicilian Dragon: Play the Yugoslav Attack. If you can do it properly, the Dragon doesn't stand a chance.

King's Indian: Play to the Queenside and break up the pawns with minority attacks. Don't let the Knights too close to your King.

Benoni: Target the d6-pawn and Kingside. Preparatory moves like a4 will lock down the Queenside for Black, so you should be attacking the center and Kingside while you can. Also, use your central pawn wedge; don't let it be wasted.

Queen's Indian: Just play the Petrosian Variation. White has a large advantage and more space.

Grunfeld Defense: White's big advantage is his large center. Don't let it be targeted too early and defend it! Since you have a central pawn majority, I'd consider trying to take more space later on to squeeze your opponent.

There are tons of other fianchetto systems, but those are the basic ones. Just remember this hint: After the fianchetto, the g6-pawn will be fixed. An advance with h4-h5 will certainly break up the kingside and allow you attacking chances. Just advance those flank pawns to the attack, and target the g6 or b6 pawn directly; you'll soon see how easy it can be.

Good luck!

What about the three-and-a-half-pawns attack, with f3, is this sensible?

^thats the samisch

I love the KID....and regularly crush the opposition unless they use...ooops! Not gonna say!

Naedling why did you send me a challenge for me to play as black? I'm trying to improve my skill against it as white, I play the NImzo-Indian against 1 d4

I too play the fiancetto system against the KID with a fair bit of success.

Here's a game I had vs. a similarly rated player on another online chess site.

I think KID players (like me) enjoy open, aggressive positions, so the best plan is to play closed, positional lines against them.

Personally, I find the Fianchetto variation and, most of all, the London system (White plays Bf4 and h3) the most annoying lines to play against, and I don't like the Exchange variation either.

I had the same problem, but now I play the exchange variation (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nf3 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.dxe5 dxe5 8.Qxd8 Rxd8 9.Bg5 Re8 10.Nd5 Nxd5 11.cxd5 c6 12.Bc4 cxd5 13.Bxd5 ) and it's fine!

And if your opponent goes for 6...Nbd7 (instead for 6...e5) this variation looks pretty safe: 7.O-O e5 8.Re1 c6 9.Bf1

And in general try not to push d4-d5 because only than it becomes really complicated.

Why not play the barry attack against the kings indian attack.  Very crude and very effective.

just look for the c5 pawn break

I agree. 

But, also this is why I choose to take up the gauntlet and play the classical because if you beat a KID player in their own backyard the plum is sweeter.