Defenses against 1.e4 that create a complex position

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26th September 2008, 05:53pm
#21
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2577
seanchesswalsh wrote:

does anyone think that those statistics may be biased as many beginners tend to play 1...e5.


Those statistics were compiled using Master games.

27th September 2008, 01:35am
#22
by photray94
United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 470

For sure the most complex response to 1. e4 is:

1...c5!

The renowned Sicilian!  It is played religously at the master level.

27th September 2008, 01:57am
#23
by cheesehat
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 196

1. e4 Na6!

 

The Lemming defense was played by Lemming against a computer to take it out of its book (chess computers those days relied on their databases more for moves than their own calculation)

 

He lost, because he screwed up.

27th September 2008, 06:43am
#24
by northsea
Hummelsta Sweden
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 140

Gurgenidze Counterattack in Caro-Kann

 1.e4 c6

2.d4 d5

3.Nc3 b5!?

27th September 2008, 06:47am
#25
by linksspringer
Scotland, UK Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 6472
Gonnosuke wrote:
seanchesswalsh wrote:

does anyone think that those statistics may be biased as many beginners tend to play 1...e5.


Those statistics were compiled using Master games.


Actually, the name "Master games" is misleading. I discovered several games by 1400 players for example.

27th September 2008, 12:04pm
#26
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2577
linksspringer wrote
Actually, the name "Master games" is misleading. I discovered several games by 1400 players for example.

After reading linksspringer's post I decided to compile my own statistics to ensure lower rated games weren't included in the results.  I used the Chessbase 2008 MegaDB as my source. The statistics have been compiled from games in which both players were rated between 2200-2875:


c5
244320    games

  • 1-0    81934    34%    53%
  • 1-1    92650    37%
  • 0-1    69673    29%    47%

Average Elo white 2394 perform 2428
Average Elo black 2407 perform 2373



g6
18366    games

  • 1-0    6669    36%    54%
  • 1-1    6324    35%
  • 0-1    5370    29%    46%

Average Elo white 2373 perform 2420
Average Elo black 2392 perform 2346



e5
99061    games

  • 1-0    32157    32%    55%
  • 1-1    44396    45%
  • 0-1    22484    23%    45%

Average Elo white 2414 perform 2446
Averagee Elo black 2411    perform 2379


27th September 2008, 12:23pm
#27
by Unbeliever
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
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I personally prefer playing Morphy's Defense against a standard e4 opening by White, but that tends to lead into closed positions that explode tactically. If you are looking for a truly tactical game, I would recommend any version of the Sicilian.  If you are looking for a somewhat erroneous tactical opening and are feeling courageous, I would recommend the Latvian Gambit.  I always cringe when I see that particular gambit.

29th September 2008, 02:10am
#28
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23091

d5 always.

29th September 2008, 01:16pm
#29
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2542

I don't like d5. after 1 e4 d5 2 exd5 Qxd5 3 Nc3 Qa5 4 d4 White is ahead in development and already has a pawn in the center where black just has his queen on a slightly better square. It's solid, though.

29th September 2008, 04:49pm
#30
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23091

d5 has always work well for me, and that set up doesn't always happen....

29th September 2008, 05:51pm
#31
by stanhope13
The Celestial City or Armageddon United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 365

try the evans gambit.

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