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Different (new?) try for Black in the English


  • 17 months ago · Quote · #41

    InfiniteFlash

    Oran_perrett wrote:

    anyway it's ovious that playing a move like h5 isn't going to be great in the opening  since it defies all principles

    umm...there are exceptions in the english where black randomly starts pushing h5-h4.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #45

    sloughterchess

    pfren wrote:
    Oran_perrett wrote:

    why can't the 1400rated player see that prehaps the IM is maybe right?

    Because I was wrong. After 10.Qe2 h4 11.Rd1 hxg3 12.hxg3 Be5 13.Nd5, the new engine evaluation is +1.13, so my previous post was totally misleading.

    I am sure that I would not win this position OTB: my laughter would be so annoying, that the ref would stop the clock and disqualify both players- white for disturbing the tournament, and Black for defaming chess.

    10.Qe2 h4 11.Rd1 hxg3 12.hxg3 Kf7 (instead of Be5) 13.Bd5ch e6 (Now the Queen can come into play) 14.Nxe6 dxe6 15.Bxc6 Qc7 16.Bf3 Bxc3 17.bxc3 Ne5 18.Bg2 Qxc4 19.Qxc4 Nxc4 & Black may hold the ending.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #46

    FirebrandX

    pfren wrote:
    GargleBlaster wrote:

    Sorry, I honestly don't understand what that means - you're excusing me if the OP posts utter crap?  How very generous. :)

    Well, you kindly asked to excuse you in your previous post- didn't you? 

    I also have the sad duty to disagree with FireBrandX: These are precisely the moves an engine would suggest, if the operator had forgotten to put the computer plug in the socket.

    I stand corrected.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #47

    sloughterchess

    sloughterchess wrote:
    pfren wrote:
    Oran_perrett wrote:

    why can't the 1400rated player see that prehaps the IM is maybe right?

    Because I was wrong. After 10.Qe2 h4 11.Rd1 hxg3 12.hxg3 Be5 13.Nd5, the new engine evaluation is +1.13, so my previous post was totally misleading.

    I am sure that I would not win this position OTB: my laughter would be so annoying, that the ref would stop the clock and disqualify both players- white for disturbing the tournament, and Black for defaming chess.

    10.Qe2 h4 11.Rd1 hxg3 12.hxg3 Kf7 (instead of Be5) 13.Bd5ch e6 (Now the Queen can come into play) 14.Nxe6 dxe6 15.Bxc6 Qc7 16.Bf3 Bxc3 17.bxc3 Ne5 18.Bg2 Qxc4 19.Qxc4 Nxc4 & Black may hold the ending.

    At a Depth of 35 Houdini 3 has this as +.67, +/=

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #48

    Oran_perrett

    +0.67 isn't really great for black, typically losing half a pawn in position by the 14th move doesn't quite come under black's aims of equalizing

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #49

    sloughterchess

    A different move order might be 1.c4 c5 2.Nf3 f5?! 3.d4 e6 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.d5 d6 6.Ng5 exd5 7.cxd5 Be7 8.e4 O-O 9.exf5 Bxf5 10.Bd3 Qd7 11.O-O Na6 12.Bxf5 Qxf5 13.Ne6 Re7 14.a3 Ne8 15.g4 (f4 h5 =) Qf3 16.Bg5 Qxd1 17.Raxd1 Bxg5 18.Nxg5 Rd7 19.Ne6 Nac7 20.Rfe1 b5 =

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #50

    Oran_perrett


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