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5th May 2008, 02:07am
#1
by AquaMan
Albany, Oregon United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 342

Serious chess student.  Five months experience.  Been playing the moderns (KIA and Pirc) for a couple months. 

I already have the book; Starting Out, King's Indian Attack, Emms, and have the video by Roman.

Looking for one Chessbase Trainer to serve as a comprehensive as possible introduction to the KIA.  Here's what I've found so far.  Which one do you think is best for my needs?  Or recommend another.  My comments below the links are from reading the descriptions.  Feel free to elaborate on or modify my impressions.  Or recommend something else.

Chessbase, Davies

Well respected.  Comprehensive intro.  Possibly intended for more advanced player than is Maddox's DVD.

Chessbase, Maddox 

Appears to have considerable material on the approach of playing 1.e4 then transposing to the KIA against anything that black throws at you, (except 1... d5).   Could be useful as this often happens at my low level of play.  If opponent doesn't go Sicilian, opponent is often determined to play e5 and d5 early, sometimes 1...d5 in response to 1.Nf3.  Maddox appears to like 1.e4, which may be intended to discourage (but certainly no prevent) 1... d5 and allows 1... e5.   

Description includes: "a customizable 1.e4 repertoire channeling virtually every black response (except 1... d5) into familiar KIA waters."  Not sure if this mean's don't play KIA against 1. e4 d5, or just that Maddox will show you how to channel it into _unfamiliar_ KIA waters.  I've read elsewhere I think that the KIA can be played against everything except 1... e5, therefore good to start with 1.Nf3 if determined to play the KIA as white.  So now I'm confused.   It sounds like Maddox is saying the KIA works against everything except 1... d5 so start with 1.e4 and transpose to KIA rather than push e4 later.

I'm sure my above doesn't make perfect sense.  I've been editing it actually as I think through it more.  As you can see, I'm struggling with KIA at low level play where oponent is determined to play e5 and d5 early, which is not in the KIA main lines as far as I know, except for the case of the reverse KID which indludes c5,d5,e5.

Potential advice on play against black's e5 and d5 is what interests me about Maddox's DVD.  Otherwise I'd probably go with Davies.  As I mentioned I do have the reverse KID theory in Emms' book, against c5, d5, e5, but Maddox may have more to say about play against early e5 and d5. 
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Thanks for any advice.


5th May 2008, 09:19am
#2
by AquaMan
Albany, Oregon United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 342

OK, I was watching Roman's video this morning while riding the stationary bike.  He mentioned 1.e4 d5 doesn't transpose into the KIA.   I suppose it's necessarily a gambit opening.  Leading with 1.e4 seems like it may not be the best choice if I'm determined to play modern lines; and I am.   In fact 1.e4 goes against the idea of giving up the center in the beginning and taking it later.  So maybe I'm back to Davies. 

The chessbase trainer DVD is just supplemental.  I like to learn from a variety of media.  Books being primary.  I'm curious about the chessbase trainers so want to try one.  I'm at about $85 on an online order and might as well get over $100 for free shipping or I'm gonna pay $9 of the remaining $15 on shipping anyway.

I'm thinking of learning the Reti to use along with the KIA as white so might consider a DVD on the Reti as well.  I'm tending to favor starting with 1.Nf3 and enjoy fianchettoing the QB as well, so the Reti might be a natural for me.  I intend to milk the moderns (KIA, Pirc, KID, maybe Reti, maybe accelerated dragon) for all they're worth for at least a year.  Just giving you a little more background.

Paul 


5th May 2008, 09:31am
#3
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 79
Well, if you begin with 1. e4 and they play 1...d5, how can you enter into a modern approach?  I believe Davies still has a decent (in his opinion) response playing 1. e4 against the Scandinavian with e4 d5 exd Qxd Nc3 Q(?) g3 and White can use the open e-file for controlling the center, plus the fianchetto for central control as well.  Plus, the e-pawn is not in the way!  So you get some of the benefits that a English Opening player enjoys by clamping on d5 with c4 and Bg2, but now you have taken on d5 with the e-pawn...definetely interesting ideas.  I would try Davies suggestion there if you want a more modern approach.  I am assuming the rest of his idea revolves around d3, Nf3, 0-0, and eventually f4 to assault the kingside, as a guideline, unless other interesting play comes to pass.
6th May 2008, 07:43am
#4
by AquaMan
Albany, Oregon United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 342
Good reply, BirdBrain.  Did you get the above from Davies' DVD, or elsewhere?
 

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