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e4 or d4


  • 11 months ago · Quote · #1

    cradon5953

    In your opinion, which opening plays better for white, e4 or d4?

    Please comment and explain ur opinion

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #2

    cradon5953

    I need comments please

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #3

    yuendat

    e4, opens diagonals for bishop and queen, prepares to casetle king-side, s'all i got

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #4

    Tom500

    In my honest opinion for you level nor e4 or d4 decide the game. Tactics would help you a lot. Chesstempo.com register there and do puzzles in a few weeks you will see improvment but you most go there and daily do tactics example 25 and don't guess the answer

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #5

    DrSpudnik

    They both fit the category: High class chess moves.

    The difference between the two will be the kind of middlegame & endgame you get from that particular opening. And don't forget, Black gets a say in what happens too.
    I play 1.e4, not because it's better than d4, but because I like the play of the open game and the middlegames I get.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #6

    joey0094

    1. e4 'best by test!'

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #7

    cradon5953

    Tom500 wrote:

    In my honest opinion for you level nor e4 or d4 decide the game. Tactics would help you a lot. Chesstempo.com register there and do puzzles in a few weeks you will see improvment but you most go there and daily do tactics example 25 and don't guess the answer


    what do you mean, my level." and also can u give me more info on the site? 

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #8

    Tom500

    Chesstempo.com is a chess tactic site similar to chess.com TT ( tactics trainer ) and its free

    your level I mean your are a beginner and a beginner must do tactics and study endgame first , openings won't help you

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #9

    cradon5953

    Tom500 wrote:

    Chesstempo.com is a chess tactic site similar to chess.com TT ( tactics trainer ) and its free

    your level I mean your are a beginner and a beginner must do tactics and study endgame first , openings won't help you


    First off im not a beginner rated 1354 in CFC. Ok, this was an opinion thread.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #10

    Metaknight251

    LOL

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #11

    skyler_kelly

    d4 if you play e4 your opponent might play the sicilian Defence which is highest scoring for black.

    Cool

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #12

    Tom500

    cradon5953 wrote:
    Tom500 wrote:

    Chesstempo.com is a chess tactic site similar to chess.com TT ( tactics trainer ) and its free

    your level I mean your are a beginner and a beginner must do tactics and study endgame first , openings won't help you


    First off im not a beginner rated 1354 in CFC. Ok, this was an opinion thread.

    That was painful. I watched some of your games. You can't see simple mates that your opponent threatens you. You give away bishops early in open position. And the list goes. I still stand correct even if you are 1354 CFC most of your games are decided by a tactical mistake. So doing tactics is the fastest way to improve for you. Once more openings won't help you.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #13

    Tom500

    skyler_kelly wrote:

    d4 if you play e4 your opponent might play the sicilian Defence which is highest scoring for black.

     

    What is holding me from playing the Sicilian Defence , Alapin varation as white ( in case you don't know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence,_Alapin_Variation )  ? But even with the main line you can win if the sicilian would be 100% scoring for black people would not play e4 but people still do 

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #14

    John_Doe18

    Well, if you are a begginer, then you should always play ea as it is the easiest. You can specialise in e4 for your whole life if you want.

    In the first years of learning chess, it depends how much you play, you should play only 1.e4 with White to create sharp tactical games to learn how to handle tactical positions. With Black play 1...e5 or 1...c5 (Sicilian) for the same reason. After you have played that way for a few years, you should switch over to 1.d4 openings and play chess on a more positional basis.

    Reasons to play 1.d4

    1. The move 1.d4 is statistically slightly more successful than 1.e4. This is due to the fact that Black scores well with the Sicilian defense which decreases the winning potential of 1.e4 in comparison to 1.d4. After you have learned tactical play with e4 for sometime, you should switch to 1.d4 later on.

    2. After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 White pressures the center and Black has a somewhat passive game with almost no counter play and finds it difficult to get somewhere with low winning chances. The tactical risks for White are lower compared to 1.e4 as less often sharp tactical positions arise. White has a slight but enduring positional edge and might convert it into a win with low risks and without running into immense tactical complicated variations where winning or losing just hangs on one tempo.

    If you compare this to 1.e4 e5 then you see that the situation is different. Here Black has always some sort of a counter chance as long as he puts his pieces on active squares like in the Italian Opening, Spanish or the Sicilian.

    Particularly the Sicilian proves this point. The game is very sharp and Black has sufficient counter chances. This is the reason why the chess opening moves of the Sicilian are so successful for Black.(except the Dragon Variation)

    3. You are getting older and later on when you pass the age of 40, or maybe earlier, you don't like to play sharp tactical chess anymore as this can be quite stressful. You will enjoy strategical play more than tactical play.

    I observed this trend watching mature players who played chess over thirty years. They tend to play positional chess and like to win using strategical elements of play. In this area they have more experience and more knowledge than young players and this increases their chances to win. And they don't like the stress which is involved when you play highly tactical games where every move counts and everything hangs on one tempi.

    All those reasons tell me that your first move later on should be 1.d4 and that you should study all relevant chess openings (answers to 1.d4) of Black, to be able to know the right plans.


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