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  • 3 years ago · #4

    chessmaster102

    Thx the colle is my main opening and Its the one opening I never parted with.

  • 3 years ago · #6

    aljay007

    i was always told to just stick to the oppening principles instead of memorising specific oppenings untill i get to a serious level rather i should focus on endgame and strategy, would you agree with that?

  • 3 years ago · #7

    IrrationalTiger

    FLchessplayer, with all due respect, it would seem that playing a system like the London or the Colle or the Stonewall instead of playing open games with more experimentation will lead to results in the short run but will ultimately stunt growth as a player.  Don't beginning players need to learn by making horrible mistakes in the opening and getting punished, rather than playing a solid but unambitious system that can get them safely into the middlegame with equality?  Also, what would you recommend that they play as black if they play Colle as white?  Teaching systems instead of just basic development at <1400 or so seems to be preparing students to fear open positions and tactics, not learn about the critical fight for the center until a later stage, and generally form habits of laziness and mechanical play in the opening.  Imho, it's generally better to just teach students basic principles of development and how to parry certain trappy lines (avoiding Nxd5 in two knights, not falling for four move checkmate or blackburne shilling gambit, etc.) and let them play open and tactical games so that they can learn how to take care of their pieces in a fray and develop as a player.

  • 3 years ago · #8

    MDOC777

    aljay007 wrote:

    i was always told to just stick to the oppening principles instead of memorising specific oppenings untill i get to a serious level rather i should focus on endgame and strategy, would you agree with that?

    I would.

  • 2 years ago · #9

    eatingcake

    IrrationalTiger wrote:

    FLchessplayer, with all due respect, it would seem that playing a system like the London or the Colle or the Stonewall instead of playing open games with more experimentation will lead to results in the short run but will ultimately stunt growth as a player.  Don't beginning players need to learn by making horrible mistakes in the opening and getting punished, rather than playing a solid but unambitious system that can get them safely into the middlegame with equality?  Also, what would you recommend that they play as black if they play Colle as white?  Teaching systems instead of just basic development at

    I find that if you just teach beginners "principles" they'll often end up with something like the Pianissimo in their games, or else something similar with d4/d5 instead -- the exact opposite of "open and tactical"!

    The thing about the Colle is that it actually aims for an open game anyway, with the liberating e4. It worked well enough that it was good as a winning try among top players in the early 20th century. Inherent to the opening are some fundamental tactics and strategic patterns like the bishop sac on h7 and the attack with an e5 spearhead. On the other hand, the worst that can usually happen out of the opening is being left with a "straightforward" but open position, or maybe an IQP. More theoretically ambitious openings can be learned later when the player is stronger, and I don't see how learning the Colle will stunt anyone's growth more than learning the first few moves of mainstream openings and automatically going into stodge-mode as soon as an unfamiliar move is played, due to not really understanding the goals of the opening.

  • 2 years ago · #10

    aljay007

    i think its pretty irrisponsable to be telling begginers to play an open game, they should learn to play chess in a way that fits their personality some people are not comfortable playing open games and to suggest to people that thats what they should be playing can somtimes be forcing them into a mould where they dont belong and will not enjoy the beauty of the game as much, i suggest you find out what kind of chess you are comfortable with and play as your personality wants, learn the open principles and try to stick with them, once you get comfortable with stratagy and endgame play then start studying oppenings but for now just concentrate on the principles of oppening and try to get to the middlegame with an even possition if you can the more you do this the better you will become.

  • 2 years ago · #12

    beardogjones

    Capablanca also had the Benoni reversed in his repertoire...

  • 2 years ago · #13

    chessmaster102

    aljay007 wrote:

    i think its pretty irrisponsable to be telling begginers to play an open game, they should learn to play chess in a way that fits their personality some people are not comfortable playing open games and to suggest to people that thats what they should be playing can somtimes be forcing them into a mould where they dont belong and will not enjoy the beauty of the game as much, i suggest you find out what kind of chess you are comfortable with and play as your personality wants, learn the open principles and try to stick with them, once you get comfortable with stratagy and endgame play then start studying oppenings but for now just concentrate on the principles of oppening and try to get to the middlegame with an even possition if you can the more you do this the better you will become.

    +1

  • 2 years ago · #15

    chessmaster102

    Mr. FLchessplayer I must sya I love your approach to coaching and believe its very understimated the way you describing things in the above post is just perfect and I won my very first tournament even though I myself was a begnnier (A U600 tourney) by following those approaches and I think your caoching should be the modern way to teach new players and wanted to ask is there anyway youd coach me.

  • 2 years ago · #16

    The_Gavinator

    Queenside Fried Liver, or maybe the Parham Attack. The Parham is better once you develop attacking, qsfl is good for all ages and levels.

  • 2 years ago · #17

    aljay007

    the queenside fried liver is for morons, i win anytime anyone attempts it.

  • 2 years ago · #18

    The_Gavinator

    Really, please give me a move order to stop it?

  • 2 years ago · #19

    aljay007

    how can i give you 1 order of moves there are many ways to attempt it.

  • 2 years ago · #20

    The_Gavinator

    There's not many different ways to attempt it, do a reverse italian game then Nb5...


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