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Evan's Gambit Accepted Line 5.cxd4 Bb4+


  • 19 months ago · Quote · #1

    FrailNature

    I usually follow up with Bd2, what do you guys suggest?

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #2

    pipituche

    Don't play 7. cxd4, just castle and if they take on c4 play 8. Qb3.  It's scary to hand off the second pawn but it passes the "Bobby Fisher played it" test.  On top of that, hang onto that dark squared bishop if you can.  A big reason you give up the b pawn is to get that dark squared bishop some nice activity, even preventing castling at times by landing on a3.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #3

    waffllemaster

    Is something wrong with Bd2?  Seems fine to me.

    You could probably even get away with Kf1 heh.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #4

    crystalclear

    Sorry, I need to try insertng a game sometime, I have never done that here before.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #5

    DrSpudnik

    Kf1 is actually not bad here.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #6

    crystalclear

    I looked at this in detail with some chess engines once, and I don't remember my conclusions, but I agree with 7. O-O.

    However I disagree with the follow-up to 7. ... dxc3.

    In that case, I think its 8. Bxf7 Kxf7 9. Qd5+; this is with the intention of recapturing a bishop and then the pawn.

    However if the king retreats back to e8, I think you can throw in a zwischenzug of Qh5+ to entice out g7 (to g6) making the rook vulnerable.

    ==

    I think my analysis may have been that 6. O-O is better than the 6. d4.

    As I seem to remember, black has adequate defences against attacks like 6. Qb3 and 6. d4. The defending moves might have been bringing out the black queen and bringing out the knight from g8.

    So while each attack could be adequately defended, the quiet little castling move sort of forced black to choose his defence before white chose his attack. The result was that black finds himself with an inappropriate defence for white's attack.

    I am sorry that I cannot be more specific. I looked at 5. ... Ba5 and 5. ... Be7 lines etc and its now all a blur in my mind. I have confused which opening demands early white castling.

    I looked at it all with Stockfish and Houdini and other chess engines over a period of time, so my conclusions were probably much better than one would think, given my grade.

    Although I love Evan's gambit for white, it does seem that with best play, black wins. Here is one line from a game, but I have lots of these and the conclusion from putting them all together was that white will lose out against best play.

     

    ed e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 b4 Bxb4 c3 Bc5 Qb3 Qe7 d3 Nb4 Ng5 h6 Bxf7+ Kf8 Nh7+ Rxh7 Bxg8 Nxd3+ Kd2 Nxc1 Kxc1 Rh8 Nd2 Rxg8
    ed e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 b4 Bxb4 c3 Bc5 Qb3 Qe7 d3 Nb4 Ng5 h6 Bxf7+ Kf8 Nh7+ Rxh7 Bxg8 Nxd3+ Kd2 Nxc1 Kxc1 Rh8 Nd2 Rxg8

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