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26th July 2007, 07:01pm
#1
by knight2c4
Sparkle City, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59

Has anyone used this or been been used by it, honestly!  I've never been used by this opening, however I've used it a handful of times and it worked about 1% of the times.  I'm new to forums BTW.

26th July 2007, 07:23pm
#2
by andy
Oro Valley, AZ United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 355

Not quite, but a couple of years ago I got to do a four-move checkmate against a player rated 928. (oh and welcome to the Chess.com forums :)

 

Here it is:

 

 

30th July 2007, 08:14pm
#3
by knight2c4
Sparkle City, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59
kinda like my attempts but I scissor my bishop and queen to h6 covered by the bishop
3rd August 2007, 03:55am
#4
by knight2c4
Sparkle City, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59
I rarely try it any more, but did it once a few months ago, but the guy I was playing admittedly said he wasn't any good, he wanted to learn the game....all this after the fact....I felt bad, kinda.  Bright side I said, you just learned fool's mate.  I taught my dautgher the move and she's pretty savvy with it...but she trys it even when it's blocked...she thought it was going to work every time.  LOL
6th August 2007, 03:34am
#5
by ebogsnes
husnes Norway
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 7

i used it

f4 e6

g4 Dh5#

15th August 2007, 11:11pm
#6
by StacyBearden
New Caprica United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 900
I love that. I was at a book store with a friend of mine and a local chess club was out front playing the public. Chester, yes Chester, walked up and played this little boy who WHIPPED him with the fool's mate, didn't even sit down, and didn't even smile at him as they shook hands. I laughed for about 10 minutes. :-D
17th August 2007, 11:34am
#7
by Trickster
Mississauga, ON Canada
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 232
Ya i know , no one falls for it anymore after everyone started publicising it!
17th August 2007, 12:06pm
#8
by IronRaven
Suceava, Ro Romania
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 78
 Fool mate can turn against you. In the beginning i fallow the principes of the opening. It's more fun thinking creativily than try to checkmate youre opponent with some memorised moves. It only works for the beginners. My oppinion
17th August 2007, 03:04pm
#9
by knight2c4
Sparkle City, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59
Agreed, but you would be surprised whom else falls for such trickery.  I've taught all my friends the openings for all quick mates (not to use mind you) but how to identify and counter because if you are caught you're open for a counter.
17th August 2007, 03:28pm
#10
by Patzer24
United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 11454
Yeah, I prefer to win a really long game than to win a 5 move game where I play for a quick checkmate. It is much more satisfying to outplay your opponent for a 50+ move game and "earn" the win rather than going for the quick swindle.

I hate to see so many parents/coaches teaching the scholastic children these checkmate tricks rather than teaching them logical opening ideas. If I ever become a chess coach I vow to rid the world of these quick checkmate tricks, hehe.  Cool

 
17th August 2007, 06:32pm
#11
by knight2c4
Sparkle City, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59
Good for you Matt.  Man I'd love to teach/coach chess, much like my friend taught me over the years.  On the other hand I'm content just playing for fun and beating those who think they're unbeatable. "Even better than winning is losing gracefully." Man do I love this game.
17th August 2007, 06:40pm
#12
by matzleeach
Chicago IL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 804
Fool mate only work against beginner. if palyed against strong player you will lose.
18th August 2007, 02:14pm
#13
by IronRaven
Suceava, Ro Romania
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 78
What do u think about this mate? I think it's more practical
18th August 2007, 03:20pm
#14
by alaskador
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 24
w0w i never thought of that..nice one!
21st September 2007, 03:19am
#15
by csit203
astorga, dumarao,capiz Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 48
I also new player no idea about that
21st September 2007, 06:45am
#16
by ThomasK
Wales
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 137
It's fine trying this out on beginners but beware, it will get you into trouble playing a stronger oppenent
22nd September 2007, 12:48pm
#17
by Alvis
Spain Spain
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 13
I have a game based in the same check mate
 few days ago.
22nd September 2007, 03:47pm
#18
by itaibn
Toronto, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 371

How can you "try" the fools mate? Isn't it a blunder for the opponent, and not a stategy. And unrelated, here a game I once played



23rd September 2007, 03:55am
#19
by ThomasK
Wales
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 137

I think itaibn has hit the nail on the head rather than regard it as a stratagy its best to regard it more as a blunder by the victim.  I always regarded to be a direct blunder in the opening and not as has been shown above. This is I believe is commonly regarded as the sequence of moves resulting in Fool's Mate.


23rd September 2007, 05:06pm
#20
by HelloWorld
Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4
You know, all of those Blitz Cream attacks (like the 4 move checkmate) are all targetted around the king's side, i mean, if i were to mount a good defense on the king's side, the game is bound to last for a long time, considering that there is no possible way to attack the king until you move away the barrier
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