Four Knights Opening defense idea

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24th April 2009, 12:33pm
#1
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
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Please point out everything you see wrong with this- I want to be able to a four knights game as black. It's frustrating to play Petrof's only to see white play 3. Nc3. Here's what I have for the Four Knights Game so far:

24th April 2009, 12:42pm
#2
by Mx0
United States
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'stead of your #4 move you can go for symmetrical

24th April 2009, 12:44pm
#3
by gxtmf1
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I don't like symmetrical variations as black past the third move because it puts black down a tempo.

24th April 2009, 01:50pm
#4
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
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Thanks, Backin94. It looks like I may finally have some good lines for the Four Knights Game.

24th April 2009, 02:01pm
#5
by mattattack99
Ann Arbor United States
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Try 4.g3                               

24th April 2009, 02:02pm
#6
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
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Turns out this is the best move after Bc4. It's under Four Knights' Game: Italian Variation. Now that I've found out it's the 2nd. most popular response to 4. Bc4 (a few thousand games or so have it), I feel foolish for thinking it was an new idea (I should know by now that there aren't any of those left). Either way, Black wins 60% of the time with 4. Bc4 ... Nxe4, which means, of course, that I'm not going to play Bc4 again as white.

24th April 2009, 02:15pm
#7
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
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Correct, this variation is the reason why 4.Bc4 is bad (though you also have to be prepared for 4.Bc4 Nxe4 5.Bxf7+).

White's main moves in the Four Knights are 4.Bb5, 4.d4 and 4.g3.

24th April 2009, 04:26pm
#8
by polydiatonic
United States
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gxtmf1 wrote:

Please point out everything you see wrong with this- I want to be able to a four knights game as black. It's frustrating to play Petrof's only to see white play 3. Nc3. Here's what I have for the Four Knights Game so far:

 

 


How about 3.... d5!  I think you've got a great chance to fight for the iniative there.

24th April 2009, 04:28pm
#9
by polydiatonic
United States
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after ...4.nxe5 what about 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Nxe4 looks okay for white to me...

24th April 2009, 04:43pm
#10
by RyanMK
Iowa United States
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polydiatonic wrote:

after ...4.nxe5 what about 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Nxe4 looks okay for white to me...


 Not really. I mean it's playable, but the main line is better. Black's king is relatively safe, and he will castle manually. Black also has the bishop pair while white doesn't and white has no real compensation.

24th April 2009, 08:04pm
#11
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
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here  are

some more lines

25th April 2009, 05:26am
#12
by carnacv
aha Czech Republic
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http://c.age.mybrute.com this game is so good

25th April 2009, 01:33pm
#13
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
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Member Points: 1304

Carnacv, what the hell does that have to do with this?

 

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