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3rd May 2008, 12:50pm
#1
by Davidmingming
United States
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Black sacrifices one or to pawns for a manual castle, but this does give White a better position and material ahead. (But White should play carefully to avoid big material loss.)

3rd May 2008, 01:06pm
#2
by young_roy123
Germany
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i like this i might try this out on yahoo
3rd May 2008, 01:07pm
#3
by De-Lar
Sycamore United States
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This doesn't seem very nice to me.  All black now has are minor pieces protecting the king.  And minor pieces should be used, not sitting back on guard detail.
3rd May 2008, 01:11pm
#4
by Evil_Homer
Ireland Ireland
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yuck.
3rd May 2008, 01:19pm
#5
by Davidmingming
United States
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I would definitely play as White because I would have advantage. : )
3rd May 2008, 01:19pm
#6
by young_roy123
Germany
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you guys dont see the power this opening had.it is very strong and i can make it work anybody care for me to use it on them in a game
3rd May 2008, 01:20pm
#7
by Davidmingming
United States
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If I play Black I could win as long he makes a mistake, most people unfamiliar would make some mistakes and I would win as Black.
3rd May 2008, 01:36pm
#8
by Dozy
Blue Mountains Australia
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Maybe Caissa has a sense of humour after all.
3rd May 2008, 01:58pm
#9
by Evil_Homer
Ireland Ireland
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young_roy123 wrote: you guys dont see the power this opening had.it is very strong and i can make it work anybody care for me to use it on them in a game

The "terrorist attack" is easily defended against, once it is recognised for what it is.


3rd May 2008, 02:15pm
#10
by young_roy123
Germany
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if you say so but im just saying some opening were you lose material at first help you out in the long run. for example the danish gambit you lose 3 pawns to 1 but in the long run you could win
3rd May 2008, 02:20pm
#11
by Evil_Homer
Ireland Ireland
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http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


3rd May 2008, 02:50pm
#12
by Davidmingming
United States
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Evil_Homer wrote:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


 That's not the Fred, it is e4 e5.


3rd May 2008, 03:02pm
#13
by Evil_Homer
Ireland Ireland
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Davidmingming wrote: Evil_Homer wrote:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


 That's notthe Fred, it is e4 e5.


Apologies if I got it wrong, but I was referring specifically to the post by young_roy123, who was speaking about the power of the opening.  On that basis, I adjudged Black's opening response to E4 to be irrelevant.


3rd May 2008, 03:51pm
#14
by God2
Malaysia
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huh?I cant understand well
3rd May 2008, 04:02pm
#15
by rich
My Home England
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This is almost as bad as the boungcloud attack.


3rd May 2008, 04:21pm
#16
by Nimzo33
Honolulu United States
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The white side of this is the "Tumbleweed gambit" 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Kf2 Qh4+ 4. g3 fxg3+ 5. Kg2 etc.

Its not as bad as you'd think (assuming you only play it for fun): white's only developed piece is a queen thats just waiting to be chased around, black has many open lines, a possible mobile center, and better development. Then there's the reason why I try it at times: white instinctively gets the feeling that he must mate black due to his open king (but will sometimes just waste clock time thinking or go for flawed cheapos), but its actually quite difficult without other pieces.


3rd May 2008, 04:22pm
#17
by rich
My Home England
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I think the Trompowsky Attack is better.
3rd May 2008, 05:12pm
#18
by Davidmingming
United States
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Danish gambit played by Jrobi, found on youtube.com
3rd May 2008, 05:31pm
#19
by hondoham
North Carolina USA and Honduras
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Fred's dead, Baby. Fred's dead. 


3rd May 2008, 05:32pm
#20
by Davidmingming
United States
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Member Points: 1202
Beginners can play them, but I don't like to play it.
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