French Defence: Alekhine-Chatard Attack

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15th September 2009, 10:14am
#1
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
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Does anyone have any experience in this line?

 

It runs 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 (I think this might already not be too good for black) 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4! sacrificing a pawn for initiative and a powerful half-open h-file.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a miniature I just finished after coming across this line for the first time. I have to say it was very natural to play, and a welcome change to the normal games you get with the French.

 

15th September 2009, 05:01pm
#2
by gimly
anytown United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 288

Your mini is nice.  Question, and maybe i'm overlooking this, but why did you rule out Nxd6 on move 12?

15th September 2009, 05:27pm
#3
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
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Very nice, very enjoyable miniature too... gimly had an Interesting question about Nxd6... it does look strong... I disagree with your annotation that the fault in 13.c5? is that it neglects development -- that comment is both generic and inaccurate... no James Joyce fan should resort to lazy cliche, GabrielWink -- I think 13.c5 is a stately, plump, tactical blunder that allows the crushing Nb5.

15th September 2009, 05:32pm
#4
by marvellosity
Portsmouth United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2009
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I was rather under the impression that Black shouldn't take the pawn.

16th September 2009, 12:32am
#5
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
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You're right that 12. Nxe6 was strong. However, after 12...g6 13. Nxc7+ Kd8 14. Qg5+ Kxc7 15. Nb5+, I couldn't see a definite way to continue the iniative, so I stuck with 12. Ng6.

19th September 2009, 03:26am
#6
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 1503

marvellosity, what would you suggest instead of taking the pawn (I think you're right)? Just to continue with typical French plans (c5, and so on)? Black certainly can't castle kingside.

19th September 2009, 03:47am
#7
by bigmac30
devon England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 391

i think i have seen from a 175 player was a sort of winerwa variation after bg5 bb4 and best is to block with the bishop

19th September 2009, 05:25am
#8
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 1503

I'm not sure what you mean. After 4...Bb4, I'm pretty sure the best move is 5. e5 (5...h6).

22nd September 2009, 07:07pm
#9
by rollingpawns
Canada
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 193

Nice miniature, but Black doesn't have to play that bad. Instead of 9. ... f6 - g6, and then Nc6, Nb6, Bd7 and O-O-O. Max White can get on the kingside after that is it's pawn back and Black has good perspectives on the queenside. If White castles queenside c5 could be played after Kb8 and Rc8. This plan is almost a refutation of Alekhine-Chatard attack from my point of view. This is from one of my games, I am Black, White's 22nd move was actually worse than Qd2:

 

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