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Gambits versus the Alekhine's defence and the Scandinavian defence

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18th March 2008, 04:53am
#1
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
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I like to play gambits or at least gambit like openings, but so far I have failed to find a gambit in these defences. Does anybody have a suggestion?

18th March 2008, 05:34am
#2
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
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I know lots of gambits for the Scandinavian, but few in the Alekhine's Defense.
19th March 2008, 07:27am
#3
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
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KillaBeez wrote: I know lots of gambits for the Scandinavian, but few in the Alekhine's Defense.

Could you give a few, please?


19th March 2008, 07:46am
#4
by Graw81
Ireland
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Some interesting ideas. Soundness is questionable. See move list for more lines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


19th March 2008, 11:18am
#5
by Graw81
Ireland
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Heres a cool article on 1.e4 d5 2.g4!?

http://www.ericschiller.com/pdf/Grob_ZilbermintsGambit.pdf

Enjoy! 


19th March 2008, 11:26am
#6
by Paintbucket
Boone United States
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I've heard of a gambit in the Alekhine that uses the e4-e5-e6 pawn advance, but I'm not sure on the move order of what the scenario would look like.
20th March 2008, 12:48am
#7
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
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Thanks, Graw81. I was actually aware of The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit and I have played some Blitz with it, but I didn't consider it to be very sound. It may be interesting to give it another try, though. Are  you aware of any literature on the subject?

I'm not so sure about your Alekhine lines. I may have to play main lines here.

Thanks also for the article. That's one gambit I will not be trying any time soon.


20th March 2008, 12:54am
#8
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
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There are a few highly praised volumes on The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit. I think "Tim Sawyer" (if my memory is working properly) is the key author. Have a look at amazon.com! 


20th March 2008, 01:07am
#9
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
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By the way, on the site that Graw81 mentions, there is also an article on one of his Scandinavian suggestions, the tennison gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3).
20th March 2008, 03:35am
#10
by Graw81
Ireland
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mathijs wrote: By the way, on the site that Graw81 mentions, there is also an article on one of his Scandinavian suggestions, the tennison gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3).

 No problem about sharing some info with you =)

 There should be some books on the BDG.

 

I actually didnt notice Eric Schiller had an article on his page about 1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 with the idea of a kind of reversed budapest gambit. I was playing that for some time thinking i had come up with the idea haha. The article even includes the 3...Bf5 4.g4 line which i done some analysis on at home. I must now go read that article! 


3rd April 2008, 08:14pm
#11
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
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I found an Alekhine game classified as a gambit with:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 dxe5 7.Nxe5

(black accepts by taking the bishop)


4th April 2008, 05:59am
#12
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
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Niven42 wrote:

I found an Alekhine game classified as a gambit with:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 dxe5 7.Nxe5

(black accepts by taking the bishop)


Thanks, but that's not really a gambit.


4th April 2008, 07:36pm
#13
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
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Paintbucket wrote: I've heard of a gambit in the Alekhine that uses the e4-e5-e6 pawn advance, but I'm not sure on the move order of what the scenario would look like.

Buntin Gambit:   1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.e6


4th April 2008, 08:38pm
#14
by mathijs
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1023
Niven42 wrote: Paintbucket wrote: I've heard of a gambit in the Alekhine that uses the e4-e5-e6 pawn advance, but I'm not sure on the move order of what the scenario would look like.

Buntin Gambit:   1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.e6


Now that's a real gambit. It seems pretty worthless, though.


24th December 2011, 06:52am
#15
by sode1
Canada
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24th December 2011, 12:12pm
#16
by badknight
United States
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I know a gambit that works against Qa5 scandinavian. Its offering a pawn by pushing pawn to b2-b4 attacking the queen followed by quick queenside development, but the lines that follows the gambit positions are certainly not forced, but quite normal. I will try to find representative games.

 

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