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Help with French Defense


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #41

    lobosolo21

    I like to play 2.- Qe2 against the French Def. search for Morozevich games and you'll find it quiet interesting.The Queen move was Tschigorin's idea.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #42

    A_Aboaisha

    Scotch 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #43

    SmoothPete

    A_Aboaisha wrote:

    Scotch 

    I'll drink to that.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #44

    DrSpudnik

    You've got to beat the devil at his own game. Learn a good line against the French. Study it so you aren't unprepared or caught off guard by it or its little quirks, and then take them on till they show some respect. I recomment 3. Nc3 lines, so you'll need to know something against the Winawer (Bb4), the Classical (Nf6) and the Rubinstein/Burn stuff (dxe4)

    In the process of learning about this stuff, you'll learn a lot about chess in general. Or you could just learn to play the French as Black. I play 1 e4 and the French Defense.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #45

    AnthonyCG

    I like to concentrate on dxe4 structures since you have to play against them in the Caro-Kann, Scandinavian, Alekhine and a bunch of other openings.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #46

    TonyH

    show me a game of an early f4 against the French your talking about please? 

    In my experience White has to be very careful about a quick f4 due to some tactical tricks along the g1-a7 diagonal. I have had multiple games won due to that pin and white wasting a tempo. one of the most annoying 'anti-french' lines at a lower level is just the exchange line (look at some kasparov games) and out play you opponent in an open position that most french players arent comfortable with. if you get serious look at the Nd2 lines, and GM Nigel Short's line against the French. Both are really really really annoying once you get things sorted out.

    Avoid the winawer unless your ready to book up a bunch. Black's counterplay in it easy pretty easy to follow and white is under a lot of strategical and tactical pressure especially if they grab the  g and h pawns. Its considered good for white in many lines but I feel like White is walking a razor edge, one slip and you a eunch

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #47

    NachtWulf

    Another anti-French that would throw off most French players (including myself) is the Horwitz attack, where white plays b3 on move 2, then fianchettoes.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #48

    TonyH

    ya b3 is respectable its not the most challenging but I have seen strong masters lose to it (2300-2400)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #49

    sanan22

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #50

    japh12345

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  • 2 years ago · Quote · #51

    japh12345

    I am trying to learn the French as a regular opening for my repertoire.  This is a game I just played and wanted to see if anyone could provide some analysis for me before I put it in Fritz.  Thanks.  I am just starting to get back into chess after a 8 year lull.  So, rusting off the cobwebs.
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #52

    CerebralAssassin

    3.Nc3 is the best against the French.I recommend Alekhine-Chatard attack against the classical.....and against Winawer...get the lady out there to g4 and enjoy the complications.as far as sidelines go...the Horwitz attack looks interesting (b3) it might throw off some Frenchies.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #53

    Hammerschlag

    TonyH wrote:

    show me a game of an early f4 against the French your talking about please? 

    In my experience White has to be very careful about a quick f4 due to some tactical tricks along the g1-a7 diagonal. I have had multiple games won due to that pin and white wasting a tempo. one of the most annoying 'anti-french' lines at a lower level is just the exchange line (look at some kasparov games) and out play you opponent in an open position that most french players arent comfortable with. if you get serious look at the Nd2 lines, and GM Nigel Short's line against the French. Both are really really really annoying once you get things sorted out.

    Avoid the winawer unless your ready to book up a bunch. Black's counterplay in it easy pretty easy to follow and white is under a lot of strategical and tactical pressure especially if they grab the  g and h pawns. Its considered good for white in many lines but I feel like White is walking a razor edge, one slip and you a eunch

    Ok, here's some games I played using the early 2)f4 move against what I expected to play against...the French. In some instances the game transposes to what may not be exactly a French defense but the ideas are the same.

    Yes, my opponent made a terrible blunder to lose the Queen.

    Someone had a problem with this game because my opponent did not play the typical c5 pawn move in this game which some believe to be a critical move to play for a French D player.

    This game has the c5 pawn move.

    My opponent in the game also makes a mistake in the end.

    Wish I had more games to show but that's about all I have since I don't get to play much; last game I truly played was about 18 months ago.

    Anyway, I hope that helps a little; I don't claim to be an expert so I know there are plenty of mistakes in all of the games above.  The Anti-French or De LaBourdonnais-McDonnell Attack is worth a look in my opinion for those who don't find playing against the French D much fun. Good luck.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #54

    dgmisal

    If you hate the French, play the King's Indian Attack, or on try 2. c4 which often goes into a line of the Panov-Botvinnik Attack from the Caro-Kan.  Or try the Exchange Variation (as a dedicated French player - my exclusive reply to 1. e4, I can admit that I hate it hate it hate it hate it so more, too open when I am trying to play closed).

     

    The 2. f4 thing is pretty weak, at least in my experience of playing on this site and in OTB tourneys (usually USCF 1600-1800 range) and I love to see it over-the-board.  It plays into the lines I like - closed lines with pawn thrusts and usually a game revolving around minor pieces and rook plays.  Not to mentiont that after 2... d5 3. Nf3 c5, I think that black has easier development and a ready-made game on the Q-side.  I just got a win in this line the other day - I'll see if I can find the notation and annotate it a little for y'all.


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