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I'm not particularly fond of the gf6 variation. Grischuk's plan with Nh4 seems quite depressive for Black. I do not know if the most exact move is 10.c3 or 10.0-0, anyway Black is alive but not well in both cases.
Black is fine after 9...gxf6 10.c3 Nd7 11.Nh4 Nb6 12.Bb3 Bd3. If white tries Qc4, simply Bc4. Black also acheives a playable position after 10.Bb3 (plenty of draws in my database) ...Nd7 11.Nh4 Bg6 12.Qf3 f5 13.g3 Nf6.
Bauer had a win in this game 20...Ba3!.
The Scandivian may be unplayable, like many other openings in CC, but certainly is OTB below the very highest level.
1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qa5 4.b4!? Qxb4 5.Rb1 Qd6(best, for other moves see my thread on the topic) leads to interesting play where White has compensation for the pawn, while 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 c6 6.Bc4 Bg4 7.h3 Bh5 8.g4 Bg6 9.Ne5 is a nice way to get an advantage.
3...Qd6 is well enough met by developing your pieces, including g2-g3 and Bc1-f4.
2...Nf6 3.c4 c6 (3...e6? is a blunder, after 4.dxe6 Black doesn't have enough for the pawn) 4.d4! cxd5 5.Nc3 is a Panov-Botvinnik which is fun to play for White.
I agree with what he said, for the most part. The Kotrc Meises Gambit with 4. b4 is really fun to play and something I have played for many years. However, 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. c4 e6 is not a blunder. This is known as the Icelandic Gambit and gives Black plenty of play for the pawn. Sorry Expertise, but if you dont have respect for it youll get crushed.
I have a 100% score against it in tournament play and I still don't have respect for it. One game was against a master.
Black is not fine after 13.Bf4 Ba6 14.Qf3 (suggested by Bauer himself). Actually engines like better the move 13.Qh5, but there are no practical examples.
Black was extremely lucky to survive this one:
10.0-0 Nd7 11.Nh4 is also depressing, although Caruana did not handle it very well against Van Wely recently (probably surprised by the opening, and not prepared very well).
In the 9. Nxf6 gxf6 line there is a plan for White with Nh4 by Grischuk but there are counters to that plan and the theory goes on.....
It takes a lot to refute an established opening--someone who plays that opening seems to often come up with a counter plan!?
I played the Scandianvian for a while, but I just don't like it for Black. I should say though, these people that say 9...gxf6 is refuted are all smoking something really bad. 9...gxf6 scores about 41 to 43% for Black. Not exactly a score you want to have, and would prefer in the mid-to-upper 40s, but it's not busted. Plus, if the Latvian Gambit can stand the test of time, and is still extremely popular in Correspondence Chess, then the Scandinavian can survive too.
By the way, Black can avoid this difficult position if he's willing to part with the Bishop Pair early on, and play Bb4 a move earlier. This does require holding off on c6, and playing the 5...Bf5 move order. 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 (I like 3.Nf3 better for White) Qa5 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bf5 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bd2 Bb4. Now Nd5 doesn't work, and simply loses a piece. 8.Qe2 allows Black to transpose to the more favorable line with 8...c6. There are other independent lines, however, and Black must be willing to part with the Bishop pair.
.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 (I like 3.Nf3 better for White) Qa5 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bf5 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bd2 Bb4. Now Nd5 doesn't work, and simply loses a piece. 8.Qe2 allows Black to transpose to the more favorable line with 8...c6. There are other independent lines, however, and Black must be willing to part with the Bishop pair.
True. In that case, 8.a3 transposes "just" to a miserable position for Black, as he has to take on c3 (remember that the a1 rook is guarded, since the queen is not on e2 yet). So, after 8.a3 Bxc3 9.Bxc3 Qc7 10.0-0, Black has achieved a lot: He has locked the bishop in, he has conceded the bishop pair, he has less space, and he's also slightly behind in development. A great achievement.
Really, intuitive play is usually good enough to get a pretty good position out of the Scandinavian with White... especially if Black is stupid and recaptures Qxd5.
To be fair, Black did develop his light-squared bishop. pfren you are analyzing 5...c6 while ThrillerFan was posting on 5...Bf5 so also 9...Qc7 is illegal.
if 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nf3 then Bg4 is imperative for
Black followed by Nc6 and 0-0-0 and I like playing the Black side.
I dont think intuitive play [without knowing the opening] is enough for
White in almost any opening.
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