would 2. blacks second move is not e-6 folowed by 3. bg-7.iit is c-5 for black gambitting the pawn.that is how to start against the tromp!!

show us some lines!

1. d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 is one of many options black has on this move and seems to avoid a lot of stuff that causes black to learn a lot of theory.

2. c-5 for black is the way to go!!!.

the tromp starting out by either chris ward or richard palliser is out in june 2008.

I'm happy with 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 e6

Refutation of the Trompowsky: 1. d4 e6! 

2...c5 loses the pawn:

3.dxc

If Black brings out the Queen:

3...Qa5

you get this: 

4.Nc3 d6

5.e4 dxe

6.b4 

and Black has problems. White has a mate threat Qd8 and is threatening the Black queen. Black only has one move:

6...Qc7

7.Nb5 Qd7

8.Qxd7 Kxd7

9.0-0-0+

and Black looks even worse

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks to MJShark for this line:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNvo0RBugs&feature=related

Play 8...Bxd7, not 8...Kxd7.

jonloop the suggested 2...c5 by tbirdtird is against the line 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 not 1.d4 d5 2.Bg5 c5.

 

duskwalker wrote: Play 8...Bxd7, not 8...Kxd7.

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Graw81 wrote:

jonloop the suggested 2...c5 by tbirdtird is against the line 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 not 1.d4 d5 2.Bg5 c5.

 

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 Ah, my apologies!

Patzer24>  Refutation of the Trompowsky: 1. d4 e6! 

lol. Only for folks comfortable playing the Black side of the French! The rest have to suffer through the full-blown Trompowsky. ;)

Does anyone have books that cover the Trompowsky? I'm really curious what various books say and recommend after reaching the position:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 e6 3.e4 h6 4.Bxf6 Qxf6

Where White controls the center but Black has the bishop pair.