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How to destroy e4 Nc6?!


  • 9 months ago · Quote · #1

    coneheadzombie

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #2

    zborg

    Is there a medium tough question here, @Coney?

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #3

    dozeoff

    To me White seems to be doing good in this position. How about 12. Bb5+ Nd7 13. Qe2 (or Qg2) intending f4? Or simply 12. h4

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #4

    Conzipe

    Black can just play 2... e5 and be happy that he managed to avoid the king's gambit, danish gambit, among others. You need to try 2. d4 if you really want to punish blacks opening and prove that 1...Nc6 is not that great of a move.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #5

    -waller-

    Nimzovich Defence is a viable opening. If you play 2.d4 you need to be prepared for the specialist lines, which is why I normally go with 2.Nf3 and Black has nothing better than 2...e5 leading to a normal King Pawn game. 

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #6

    coneheadzombie

    Can someone explain these lines to me better? thanks.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #7

    jrzmath99

    How about 2.f4? It goes into a KG type structure which is what 1...Nc6 players like to avoid.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #8

    coneheadzombie

    Leads to an intersting game. Or,

    with an easy game for Black, who is at least equal

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #9

    jrzmath99

    coneheadzombie wrote:
     

    Leads to an intersting game. Or,

     

    with an easy game for Black, who is at least equal

    Your top game is dumb. White would not play 3.fxe5 due to Qh4+.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #10

    coneheadzombie

    missed that

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #11

    gambitlover

    -waller- wrote:

    Nimzovich Defence is a viable opening. If you play 2.d4 you need to be prepared for the specialist lines, which is why I normally go with 2.Nf3 and Black has nothing better than 2...e5 leading to a normal King Pawn game. 

    After 2.Nf3 Black  can play Nf6 and play "El columpio" : 3.e5 Ng4 4.d4 d6 5.h3 Nh6

    or "Colorado Defense" : 2. .. f5

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #12

    gambitlover

    Conzipe wrote:

    Black can just play 2... e5 and be happy that he managed to avoid the king's gambit, danish gambit, among others. You need to try 2. d4 if you really want to punish blacks opening and prove that 1...Nc6 is not that great of a move.

    ??????

    Black just plays 2. ..  d5  after 2.d4,  so what ?

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #13

    gambitlover

    coneheadzombie wrote:
     

    Can someone explain these lines to me better? thanks.

    Main lines are

    3.e5 f6 4.f4 Nh6 5.Nf3 Bf5

    3.exd5 Qxd5 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 0-0-0

    3.Nc3 e6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.e5 Ne4 6.Bd3 f5

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #15

    coneheadzombie

    I would rather do this than all the other complications.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #16

    PawnPromoter316

    Just transposes into the Scotch or Ruy Lopez; might as well play 1) ... e5 right away

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #17

    nate23

    I think too many players see a opening move like ...Nc6, and since it is not played as often think "there must be an agressive way to punish this." Sometimes, just regular developing moves are called for in order to "punish" an opening. For most openings such as this, play what you feel comfortable with. So if you want to play the Ruy, Italian, or Scotch, play 2.Nf3. If you are comfortable with 2.d4, then play it!

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #18

    gambitlover

    Pacifique wrote:

    1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.e5

    Here is example to illustrate problems Black may face

     

    You played Bf5  played much to early :

    3.e5 f6 4.f4 Nh6 5.Nf3 Bf5

    Buy a good book on 1. .. Nc6 and study it, instead of publicating lines a real Nc6 player will never play.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #20

    coneheadzombie

    THe Parham makes its reappearance


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