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Humphrey Bogart gambit


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    blobby12

    Can I have some insights on this gambit please? The gambit goes 1.d4 Nf6 2.g4 Nxg4 and also d5 the declined line,instead of Nxg4

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    NimzoRoy

    2...Ng4   131 games   40%   Last played 2011   Best Elo 2555

    2...d5       42 games   49%   Last played 2548   Best Elo 2548

    2...other   29 games    Best Elo 1720  

    SOURCE: ChessBase BIG DB 2011 (5.25 million games)

    NOTE: The winning percentages are for White, 40% is terrible for White and 49% is merely below average for White. BUT, this opening might be OK for OTB, maybe - possibly - perhaps. Then again, you didn't say you wanted to play it as White, maybe you just wanna know how to play against it. As for any insights into it you're going to have start playing over every game you can find with it, since it's probably not even a footnote in most opening manuals. Good luck!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    rooperi

    I've played this OTB in a club championship a few years ago. My opponent was former South African chamion Albert Ponelis. He was so taken aback he declined the gambit, and I ended up messing up a winning position in the end :)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    gambitlover

     

     since it's probably not even a footnote in most opening manuals.!


    Rasmus pape has written a book on this opening  "Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit", Schachverlag Manfred Madler, 1991.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    gambitlover

    echecs06 wrote:

    Not very sound for white


    There is nothing unsound with this opening. Of course people who play this without any knowledge will deform the statistics.  Solid lines are 1.d4 Nf6 2.g4 Nxg4 3.e4 d6 4.Bg5 (or 4.Be2)  and  1.d4 Nf6 2.g4 Nxg4 3.e4 d5 4.Be2

    Also GM B. Larsen find nothing wrong with this opening ("Skarpe abninger", 1983, page 49)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    karangtarunasemarang

    thanks...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    Estragon

    It's a shock weapon for surprise.  The key for White is not to expect or play for immediate compensation - just take the tempo and figure the open file will come into play at some point.  Black can easily withstand any direct attack, and often gets a killer counterattack, but if White plays slowly and develops and improves his position, he can get chances later that aren't evident in the opening.

    But don't figure to use it often.  In any group, word spreads fast, and players who are not surprised will be ready to just try to cash in the pawn.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    gambitlover

    Estragon wrote:

    It's a shock weapon for surprise.  The key for White is not to expect or play for immediate compensation - just take the tempo and figure the open file will come into play at some point.  Black can easily withstand any direct attack, and often gets a killer counterattack, but if White plays slowly and develops and improves his position, he can get chances later that aren't evident in the opening.

    But don't figure to use it often.  In any group, word spreads fast, and players who are not surprised will be ready to just try to cash in the pawn.


    I am sure you never played this opening.  You give comments about something you dont understand.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #9

    chessolite


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