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I need to learn a system to play against 1. d4


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #1

    Aboba

    I am a pretty low rated player around 1300 and i want to learn the basics of a good system to play against 1.d4. I want to learn this because i have a school chess tournament in November (i am 17 btw) and when i play against the people there most of them dont know chess theory, they dont even know to name the opening they play. I am curently ranked second in my school (i lost in the finals cause i was nervous and yea that reflected on my game) and i wanna win this tournament in November. The thing is whenever i face 1. d4 in school it goes kinda like this


    Now, i want to know what can i play against this other than the thing i play now (I think it is called the Colle System). Maybe some variation of the KID or Grunfeld? I really need help and pls dont say "Oh you are a bad player to learn how to play those openings that are full of theory." i dont need to play at a master level i just wanna know more on how to face 1. d4, i already play the Sicilian against 1. e4 and it is used me pretty good since no one knows any chess theory which makes me have the advantage of at least some knowledge. Tnx in advance! Wink

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #2

    slayerwpww

    Try reading "Winning chess openings" from Yasser Seirawan. Plenty of knowledge about the queen pawn's openings.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #3

    DecisivePlay

    I'd highly recommand the king's indian defense.

    The idea behind it is extremely simple and it's extremely simple to crush opponents who have no knowledge whatsoever on the system.

    I'm also 17 and I can completely understand why you're nervous because I've been in the exact same situation. It's just that you shouldn't really care about the tournament of your opponent. Just imagine you're playing someone you usually play or copy me; imagine you're playing on the internet!

    Puno sreçe :)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #5

    Master_Po

    Try developing BOTH your knights first, before your bishop and 2nd pawn.  Try this 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 e6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. e4 Be7 6. Bxf6 Bxf6 7. Bb5 O-O 8. Bxc6 bxc6 9. O-O.  It will take a different line and he'll have a doubled pawn, you'll have good control of the center.  If he does dxe4, then can retake with your knight and be in good shape with both your knight close to the center.  Then as soon as you can, move your rook on f to e1.  If he ever moves his Q, take his bishop with your knight and he'll retake with his pawn which will expose his king.  Think of 3 candidate moves each time and see where they go, then pick the best one.  You'll be #1 soon. 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #6

    Metaknight251

    I second the recomendation of the QGD or the slav.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #7

    Mrvos

    I usually try for the Nimzo or Bogo, allows me to be flexible in a system that I am comfortable with.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #8

    Aboba

    Hmmm i am still thinking about the KID or maybe the Slav. As i earlier said yes both are complicated, but so is the Sicilian, and i won 9 out of 10 games with black using the Sicilian in the last tournament because my opponents are really familiar with the lines and they have no chess theory. So yea, it is the KID or the Slav. =)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #9

    Aboba

    Franken_Berry wrote:

    What's wrong with your current setup?

    Well i guess there is nothing wrong with it, but i just panic if someone plays 1.d4 cause i really dont have a system against that. So i improvise while playing, sometimes it turns out good, sometimes i get crushed, so yea i wanna learn how to face the 1. d4. I have about 2 months time until November to at least know what my plans and ideas are when i play as black against that first move. KID looks kinda passive, and the Slav looks kinda good but i am not sure. Maybe QID and the Nimzo? I am really confused. xD

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #10

    Aboba

    Franken_Berry wrote:

    Your current system looks Tarrasch-like to me, which is a positive if you're after a relatively open game with easy development (I think).

    Yes, i prefer open games to closed ones, but i usually get an open game when i play with white. Still it will be a tough call to choose and opening for black.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #11

    voldermort123

    how about the benko gambit

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #12

    AnthonyCG

    The game will open up in time. Don't be so worried about opening the game up in the beginning.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #13

    ilike1d4

    the reversed colle system/semi-slav, develop, then play e5.

    (imagine White plays normal moves)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #14

    ilike1d4

    or the stonewall dutch

    (prevent white playing e4)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #15

    pellik

    Everyone should know the basics of the QGD (at least from the black side), just like everyone should know the basics of the Ruy. It's fundamental classical chess and the ideas will never really disappear no matter what you play.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #16

    bobyyyy

    DecisivePlay wrote:

    I'd highly recommand the king's indian defense.

    The idea behind it is extremely simple and it's extremely simple to crush opponents who have no knowledge whatsoever on the system.

    I also recommend the KID. When my opponent knows what he or she is doing I usually get killed, but most chess players I encounter don't know it that well.

    If you learn the KID you will never have to learn any other queen's pawn opening which is OK for a lazy person like me.

    I recommend a book published in 1999, Bronstein on the King's Indian.

    From the Introduction: The King's Indian gives you the maximum opportunity to test your ability to make reasonable decisions in situations on the chess board that are always complex and uncertain.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #17

    slayerwpww

    Slav defense.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #18

    blueemu

    There's nothing wrong with the system you're playing now... as mentioned above, it's a type of Tarrasch formation which is perfectly playable at your level.

    Also... while I'm not an IM by any means... I feel that you could easily play the KID against 1300-1400 rated opponents. At your level of chess, it's not so important to know the book lines in that opening, since you will rarely face them except by accident. What you need to learn about the KID is the typical types of formations and where your counter-play can be expected to come from... in which types of formations pushing a Pawn to e5 is better than playing c5 instead, when your Queen's Knight belongs on c6 and when it should go to d7 instead, when to exchange in the center and when to hold your ground and manoever.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #19

    ChristianSoldier007

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #20

    Aboba

    blueemu wrote:

    There's nothing wrong with the system you're playing now... as mentioned above, it's a type of Tarrasch formation which is perfectly playable at your level.

    Also... while I'm not an IM by any means... I feel that you could easily play the KID against 1300-1400 rated opponents. At your level of chess, it's not so important to know the book lines in that opening, since you will rarely face them except by accident. What you need to learn about the KID is the typical types of formations and where your counter-play can be expected to come from... in which types of formations pushing a Pawn to e5 is better than playing c5 instead, when your Queen's Knight belongs on c6 and when it should go to d7 instead, when to exchange in the center and when to hold your ground and manoever.

    Yea i started learning the KID yesterday and i also looked up some great games from Kasparov and Fischer, they used it pretty well so if i can pick up a trick or two that would be nice :D i have enough time to prepare for the tournament and finally be #1 =)

    @ChristianSoldier007 yea  i saw that online a while ago here is the playlist  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL395D5E86206DD11C&feature=plcp it is good if you wanna learn it but i am into the KID more, tnx anyway =) 


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